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Remote Starter Starts & Shuts Off

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: Remote Starter Starts & Shuts Off

Posted By: Spit
Subject: Remote Starter Starts & Shuts Off
Date Posted: November 08, 2004 at 3:30 PM

I have a Avital Hurricane I ithat's nstalled in a 1997 Chevy Blazer.  Recently when attempting to start via the remote starter the engine starts runs for 3-5 seconds and quits.  Sometimes it attempts to restart on it's own but this fails also.  It has been working fine up to this time.   I noticed that when I start it with the key that the needle for the voltmeter goes from the rest position to 13-14 volts right away.  But that when remotely started the needle seems to hover around 10 volts or so...until I turn the key to the on position

I stopped by a Avital dealer who told me it sounded like a tachometer/wiring problem.  He said they might have to reset the tach?  But he couldn't explain what that meant or how I could check it or reset it myself.

If anyone has and ideas how to check this or any other ideas I should look at I would really appreciate it,

Spit




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Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: November 08, 2004 at 4:18 PM
Are you sure your RS is a Hurricane?? Please confirm for us.

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Posted By: audiopro111
Date Posted: November 08, 2004 at 8:58 PM
more than likely u have to recalibrate your passlock interface to the right resistence,do you notice if your security light comes on when it fails?

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Posted By: Spit
Date Posted: November 09, 2004 at 8:11 AM

  Teken

   It definitely is a Hurricane. It labeled as a Hurricane not a  Hurricane II  just a plain Hurricane

  Audiopro

    Do you mean the status light on the dashboard?  And when you say comes on..do you mean flash, stay on solid etc.  The car is at college this week with my daughter and, I'll call her and ask her to tell me what happens for sure.    How do I recalibrate it?





Posted By: audiopro111
Date Posted: November 09, 2004 at 8:33 PM
stays on is the question and to recalibrate or set is more like it you have to find the passlock wires usually on this car should be one yellow wire that more than likely was cut and a black wire of the same gauge that is the ground side of the passlock basically you have to find  the correct resistence value at ignition when vehicle is running using a digital multimeter. connect blk lead from meter on blk wire and and just for the mean while connect yellow wire back together and attach red lead from meter to this yellow wire .Now set your meter to 12 volts DC with the key out of ignition the display on meter should read 4volts to 5 point something volts each vehicle varies this is an example then put key into ignition Now the meter display will show u a different  voltage value something like 2.6 or 3.2volts these #'s are just examples once u get a steady value on that display with key in ignition get a pen and write this # down so u won't forget..     ok now  disconnect red lead and remove key from ignition reconnect yellow wire like it was before now attach red lead to the yellow wire on the side that goes to body control module NOT the side that goes to ignition ......ok one other thing i forgot to mention most of those passlock bypass wires have a constant 12 volt wire a 2nd ignition wire a ground wire a wire that goes to black wire that i mentioned above and two other wires that go to the yellow wire i mentioned above that only leaves us with one other wire that gets the negative signal from remote start that activates bypass during remote start mode ok now this wire u can disconnect from bypass for now .start your vehicle like normal with the KEY now the display should give the reading you wrote down before.  once this is established take that wire u disconnected and touch ground for a second now the meter display will show a totally different value and you security light on dash will come on solid ,..get a small screwdriver usually a flat head and on that bypass there should be a small screw (dial) that can be turned clockwise or counterclockwise turn dial until u reach the value that u originally wrote down , once u do that turn vehicle off and security light on dash will shut off as well. Now restart once more and tap that wire back onto ground for a second and if security light DOES NOT come on again then U DID IT !!!!! now reconnect that wire that u were grounding back to where it was ,turn off vehicle and try to REMOTE START. if this is too much to swollow or your unsure u can't handle it.. no one  will hold it against you   your better off taking it to a tech..Hope this works for u GOOD LUCKposted_image

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: November 09, 2004 at 8:38 PM
Hold on there turbo. Does the factory orange security light in the instrument cluster turn on and stay on while attempting to remote start? Actually just describe what that light does.

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Posted By: Spit
Date Posted: November 10, 2004 at 7:19 AM

Teken] wrote:

re you sure your RS is a Hurricane?? Please confirm for us.

Here are the model numbers I took off of the unit a while back.  there are 2 boxes connceted to togther with plastic ty-wraps

One is marked as   Hurricane  2FT0681H7AA  5303-1152  Aviatl Hurricane

The second is marked  Q Start 2DC1515K6KA  65390 Avital  AX2966KA

 Hope this clarifies what I am dealing with

Chuck





Posted By: civicdownlow
Date Posted: November 10, 2004 at 10:23 AM
a 97 blazer shouldnt have passlock first year in the trucks was 98

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 10, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Recalibrate the tach signal. Make sure that the truck is at it's lowest RPM idle before attempting to relearn the tach signal.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Spit
Date Posted: November 10, 2004 at 12:29 PM

This site is great! 

Audiopro111, I really appreciate all the input.  civicdownlow is correct this 1997 Blazer doesn't have Passlock..my 96 Lumina sedan did;  I guess they didn't put it on the "truck' line until later.  I haven't been able to get an answer from my daughter as far as if the orange security light in the cluster stays on when trying to remote start.

If it is a matter of recalibrating the tach how do I do that with a non-Passlock vehicle. Velocity Motors can you or anyone else  tell me the steps are to "re-learning" the tach signal?  I am fairly handy, have a digital voltmeter and a few tech skills.  If you can give me a little bit of a "idiot's guide to tach recalibration" I should be able to handle it from there.

Chuck





Posted By: DDN3d
Date Posted: November 10, 2004 at 4:38 PM
Just start the truck up and within 5 seconds hold down the Valet/Program button until the LED lights up solid. You're done.

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Posted By: Spit
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 12:33 PM

DDN3d] wrote:

ust start the truck up and within 5 seconds hold down the Valet/Program button until the LED lights up solid. You're done.

So I'm clear...My Valet switch is a on/off toggle type switch.  So I really don't hold theswitch down..it's either on or off    Are you talking about a button on my remote control or the valet switch mounted on the dashboard? I have a 2 button remote one unlocks door/sets alarm 2nd button works remote start.

If your speaking of the valet switch are you saying that I should enter valet mode prior to doing this..which means I insert the ignition key and turn it to an on position and then flick the valet switch to the off position...and then start the truck and flip the switch to an on positon?    Or do I just start the truck with the alarm in it's normal run position and then flick the valet switch to the off mode within 5 seconds.

Sorry to ask so many ignorant questions..but I am not clear. 





Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 5:12 PM
No, your valet switch is a black pushbuttom with a blue 2 pin connector on it the plugs into the blue 2 pin connector on the brain.

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Shaughn Murley
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Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta




Posted By: Spit
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 11:57 AM

 I've done a little more research and spoke with  a customer service person for Directed Electronics (Directed bought Clifford who bought Avital)  They told me that the the Hurricane that I have is a car alarm and that the Remote Starter function for it is a add-on called a Quick Start   (It's marked Q-start on the brain itself) .  In reviewing info on the Avital page of Directed's website it looks like most of the Avital remote starts require mandatory RPM setting, and it is accomplished by entering Valet mode flipping the valet mode switch on and off  a whole bunch of times to get to the right setting.  Problem is that it seems to vary by model...on some units it's 14 flips on others 15 on other's 18...does anybody know the correct number of flips of the Valet switch for RPM programing on an AVITAL Q-Start?  Does anybody have any owners/installation manuals for this unit...seems like this is the only place I can find the correct procedure.

Thanks

Spit






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