wiring problem with a 2002 lancer

Hey guys i am having trouble with keyless entry and remote start on 2002 mitsubishi lancer. The remote start asks for an ignition 2 wire which any wire diagram ive seen does not list it. The car cranks over but does not start. Second the car unlocks but does not lock. I ve hooked the lock wire to the purple wire and the unlock wire to the lt. green wire. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

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evergrin9904

This is all I have to help you with but, as for the door locks the connections are correct. Just be sure that they are sending a ground pulse rather than a + pulse. This car is also eqqiped with a transponder type system. You need to bypass this which will cost you a spare key.

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MECP certified (If it really means anything)
Jeremy

-thats one less ignition wir eyou have worry about. but theres a 2nd ACC(blue/white), you can power this one up, but its not necessary for RS.


|       POWER LOCK|purple              |- |driver kick panel           |
|     POWER UNLOCK|lt. green           |- |driver kick panel           |
use a DMM to test these wires. you could be miss guided by bunches of harness at the DKPanel

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).

ok i think i understand the locks, but the start is what is really bothering me. Like i said it cranks but doesn't start , this is a tachless installation so is there something i am missing i dont understand the transponder type system im not familure with that. Hopefully i can get it working its my wifes christmas present. Thanks for your help so far.

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evergrin9904

does it start w/ the key in teh keycylinder(do NOT turn)?

if it start(only w/ the key in), then you have some sort of antitheft. if it still doesnt start, you might want to increase the crank time since youre using tachless mode.

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).

I have already did installs on this car. It has chryslers transponder system in it. Without the key the remote start will NOT WORK. You need a transponder bypass kit. This kit requires one of the cars keys. The key has a programed chip in it that the ignition needs to see. The bypass is easy to install. It comes with what looks like a copper coil that wraps around the key cylinder. The key gose into the bypass box. Usally depending on the bypass, it is a basic 2 or 3 wire hookup. when the remote start unit is activated it turns on the transpoder bypass and sends the signal of your key to the previously installed "copper coil" around the key cylinder, fooling your ign by telling it that the key is there.

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MECP certified (If it really means anything)
Jeremy

ok got that this is a 2002 lancer es if that makes a difference.  I do have a valle key that does not have the chip in it and it still starts the car, but i will look into it. Do you happen to know how much those transponder kits are? thanks again

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evergrin9904

You can program the keys yourself.

what does the head of the key look like (color). The vallet key will start the car. It is ment to. But just for the sake of it, try putting the key into the cylinder fully but dont turn it. while the key is in the ign remote start the car and let me know if it starts.

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MECP certified (If it really means anything)
Jeremy

ok ill try that ill have to post later, and i thank you so much for your help

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evergrin9904

oh and the key color is black on the usual keys on the vallet key it does not have a plastic head thanks again

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evergrin9904

Mitsubishi Lancer 2002

 

Remote start / Security / GPS

Wire/Function	Colour	Location/Description	Polarity
12 VOLTS	White	Ignition switch harness	+
IGNITION	BLACK/ white	Ignition switch harness	+
ACCESSORY	Blue/white	Ignition switch harness	+
STARTER	BLACK / YELLOW	Ignition switch harness	+
TACH	BLACK / YELLOW or BLACK/ green	At either of 2 coils on top of engine	AC
CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR	BROWN / green	On lower front of engine*
FUEL INJECTOR	Opposite from RED / yellow	At any injector on engine	AC
LOCK	Violet	On junction block above DKP	-
UNLOCK	Lt.green	On junction block above DKP	-
DOORPIN	Black	On junction block above DKP	-
TRUNK PIN	GREEN/ orange	At light in luggage compartment	-
BRAKESWITCH	Green	At switch above brake pedal	+
PARKLIGHTS	GREEN / WHITE	On junction block above DKP	+
HAND BRAKE	BLACK/ red	At switch on handbrake lever	-
HORN	Yellow	At steering column	-
CLUTCH SWITCH	Blue/orange	At switch above clutch pedal	TYPE 4
DRIVER WINDOW UP	RED / black	At switch in driver's door	REV POL
DRIVER WINDOW DOWN	GREEN/ black	At switch in driver's door	REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW UP	Blue/white	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW DOWN	BLACK/ white	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW UP	White	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW DOWN	Blue	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW UP	Blue/black	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW DOWN	GREEN/ YELLOW	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
HEADLIGHTS	RED / black	On junction block above DKP	+
REVERSE LIGHTS	Brown	Under driver's side running board	+
VSS WIRE	BLACK / YELLOW	Pin-8 at PCM behind glovebox
KEY SENSE	Blue/red	Ignition switch harness	-

Vehicle notes

* Also found at pin-45 of connector C-118 connector of PCM behind glove box.

Keep in mind that none of the Mitsubishi Lancer's have a transponder in the key

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GFELLA 20000000000

Mitsubishi Lancer 2002

 

Remote start / Security / GPS

Wire/Function	Colour	Location/Description	Polarity
12 VOLTS	White	Ignition switch harness	+
IGNITION	BLACK/ white	Ignition switch harness	+
ACCESSORY	Blue/white	Ignition switch harness	+
STARTER	BLACK / YELLOW	Ignition switch harness	+
TACH	BLACK / YELLOW or BLACK/ green	At either of 2 coils on top of engine	AC
CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR	BROWN / green	On lower front of engine*
FUEL INJECTOR	Opposite from RED / yellow	At any injector on engine	AC
LOCK	Violet	On junction block above DKP	-
UNLOCK	Lt.green	On junction block above DKP	-
DOORPIN	Black	On junction block above DKP	-
TRUNK PIN	GREEN/ orange	At light in luggage compartment	-
BRAKESWITCH	Green	At switch above brake pedal	+
PARKLIGHTS	GREEN / WHITE	On junction block above DKP	+
HAND BRAKE	BLACK/ red	At switch on handbrake lever	-
HORN	Yellow	At steering column	-
CLUTCH SWITCH	Blue/orange	At switch above clutch pedal	TYPE 4
DRIVER WINDOW UP	RED / black	At switch in driver's door	REV POL
DRIVER WINDOW DOWN	GREEN/ black	At switch in driver's door	REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW UP	Blue/white	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW DOWN	BLACK/ white	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW UP	White	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW DOWN	Blue	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW UP	Blue/black	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW DOWN	GREEN/ YELLOW	In driver's kickpanel	REV POL
HEADLIGHTS	RED / black	On junction block above DKP	+
REVERSE LIGHTS	Brown	Under driver's side running board	+
VSS WIRE	BLACK / YELLOW	Pin-8 at PCM behind glovebox
KEY SENSE	Blue/red	Ignition switch harness	-

Vehicle notes

* Also found at pin-45 of connector C-118 connector of PCM behind glove box.

Keep in mind that none of the Mitsubishi Lancer's have a transponder in the key

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GFELLA 20000000000

Keep in mind that I do alot of mitsubshi lancers, I have a contract with a mitsubishi dealership. I have had both types come in. Some do have the transponder some of them dont. This all depends on what plant that the car was made at.  "KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME OF THE LANCERS HAVE A TRANSPONDER KEY" Note that I have never said all!!!!!!!

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MECP certified (If it really means anything)
Jeremy

Keep in mind that I do alot of mitsubshi lancers, I have a contract with a mitsubishi dealership. I have had both types come in. Some do have the transponder some of them dont. This all depends on what plant that the car was made at.  "KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME OF THE LANCERS HAVE A TRANSPONDER KEY" Note that I have never said all!!!!!!!

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MECP certified (If it really means anything)
Jeremy

Well guys ill give it another try. My wife said if its not done by tonight then to take it out, so this is kind of my final shot at it. I thank you all very much for the useful information i will use it when im working on it tonight. thank you for being so kind.

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evergrin9904

ok guys, ive tried the key in the ignition, it did start the car, however when i did turn it to run the car started so i dont know if it is still the transponder, or maybe a wire any more ideas would be great thanks.

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evergrin9904

well i got everything installed a-ok. thanks to everyone's help i appreciate it greatly!!!

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evergrin9904