2005 cobalt SS, alarm/remote start
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 13, 2024 at 8:23 PM
Topic: 2005 cobalt SS, alarm/remote start
Posted By: koolspot6
Subject: 2005 cobalt SS, alarm/remote start
Date Posted: May 11, 2005 at 1:33 PM
just wondering if anyone has installed a remote start/alarm on one of these yet- if so could you send us some sort of info on how it was done without diodes and lots of relays- we've got 2 coming in to us in june right after the people get them- we got the bypass of the clutch done, the starter wire is well a little more complicated from what we hear- so any help is a plus THANKS!!!
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Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: May 11, 2005 at 3:19 PM
No relays, no diodes (except to isolate the door triggers)
EVERYTHING can be had at the BCM except tach and hoodpin.
PLXR is the best bypass for this vehicle.
I just finished one and have done 12 or so of them. Easy easy cars, very similar to the Saturn Ion.
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: ccroadshop99031
Date Posted: May 11, 2005 at 3:43 PM
does it crank w/ acc. drop also? (no starter wire?)
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: May 11, 2005 at 10:54 PM
yes
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 12:20 AM
Colorado, Canyon, Ion, Pursuit, Cobalt & a few more all use the same type of system. You can easily find out by turning over the starter and holding it in the start position. If it grinds, it's got the normal Passlock system and if it doesn't grind, then it's the new system. Of course when you try this, just drag the starter for 1/2 sec to reduce the possibility of damage to the starter if it is the normal system.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 7:10 AM
jeff... are you sure about the grinding with passlock? i have done several cobalts and all with the passlock system and they all had anti grind (turn key after vehicle is started and it wont grind). however all of the cobalts i have done have been automatic transmission. and also if it has passlock two on it you can use a 555l o similiar module. if you need details on how to hook it up and learn it let me know via pm and ill post up.
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Posted By: jcassonjr
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 9:15 AM
that is because the cobalt ss only comes in a 6-speed manual if I am correct.
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Alpine cda-9855
Alpine Mrd-m1000
1 farad digital Rockford cap
2 Treo SSi 12's
Large centerport box
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 9:31 AM
cobalt does not use traditional passlock, it's passlock hybrid, Rcode is sent during crank cycle.
Jeff nailed it on what vehicles use it, but you can also add the malibu, g6 to that list, but they also use PK3.
And jeff, all the 2004-2005 pickups have antigrind as well, you don't have to hook up the starter wire either.
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 11:17 AM
I am confused as to why you mentioned the malibu, I thought that this debate was settled. Are you saying that you need to bypass passlock on the malibu as well as pk3? If so that is false. All you need to do is bypass the pk3. Sorry for the thread jack. As far ass the passlock hybrid issue. Yes jeff got the models correct and no you do not need the start wire to be hooked up. You can use traditional passlock modules, you just have to learn them in an odd way. You can even still use relays and a resistor to bypass during remote start still.
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Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 6:06 PM
malibu/g6 need an Rcode to be sent on the white wire at the ign switch during crank as well as pk3.
PKG7 does both hybrid passlock and passkey bypass on those cars.
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 6:12 PM
Extreme1... I am not trying to argue with you, but I have done more than 400 malibues since the body change and you do not need to send an r code! Maybe they are different in canada, but that rumor was here in the u.s.a. And it has been disproved. Next time just for giggles use a u module and it should work just as good. I don't know how much you pay for the trilogix module you use, but for me it is cheaper to use a 556u and there is no problem. I am not going to post on this anymore, but I might start a new thread, because I think this may be usefull to others. P.s. Sorry again for the thread jack
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Posted By: ccroadshop99031
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 7:53 PM
maybe you guys should fight over it...
Posted By: nava94
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 8:34 PM
for future reference can someone post the relay set up to bypass the passlock & schematics on this vehicle. 100bucks on misterjimbo!! J/K both misterjimbo & extreme1 have valid points but usa vehicles might differ a little from canadian vehicles.thankz for the info guyz.
Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: May 12, 2005 at 10:42 PM
You guys are funny. I will post up the resistor bypass tomorrow for the cobalt. I will star a new thread
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Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: May 13, 2005 at 9:57 AM
misterjimbo wrote:
Extreme1... I am not trying to argue with you, but I have done more than 400 malibues since the body change and you do not need to send an r code! Maybe they are different in canada, but that rumor was here in the u.s.a. And it has been disproved. Next time just for giggles use a u module and it should work just as good. I don't know how much you pay for the trilogix module you use, but for me it is cheaper to use a 556u and there is no problem. I am not going to post on this anymore, but I might start a new thread, because I think this may be usefull to others. P.s. Sorry again for the thread jack
Must be a difference in Canada spec cars, I know we get alot more vehicles with transponder that standard than you too, such as dodge dakota/durango all come with tranponder and I've seen mentioned alot in the US don't.
I have done the malibu and the G6 without crank Rcode and gotten a no crank situation, I wouldn't have posted about it otherwise. ------------- Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
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