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Mannix SM700 and Remote Start Problem

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: March 29, 2024 at 2:53 AM


Topic: Mannix SM700 and Remote Start Problem

Posted By: mirz
Subject: Mannix SM700 and Remote Start Problem
Date Posted: June 06, 2005 at 5:23 PM

First of all Hi to all members. its my first post on this forum. I am from Melbourne, Australia.

i have searched this forum thoroughly but could not find this issue mentioned anywhere.

i have installed this above alarm system in my Accord 95 manual. Car has no other alarm or immobiliser.

all functions are working fine, except, when i try to remote start, it starts my car and after about 10 seconds engine shutdowns, then after 2-3 seconds restarts. this process happens total 3 time. (according to Mannix user-menual its normal to try 3 times, if engine fails to start).

but my case is different engine fully startsup and then stop.

i have tried Tachometer Learning 4-5 times already with full warmup engine, and it came up with no error.

can someone please tell me where i m doing wrong, thanks a lot in advance.

regards

Mirz



Replies:

Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 06, 2005 at 6:14 PM
"Use the injector wire ( uncommon color ) for the tach signal input. Once you do this reprogram the system to the new tach wire. Jeff"

where can i find this injector wire in my car, if thats the only solution in my case?




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 8:47 AM
i have strong doubt on Ignitition wiring. either IGN1 or IGN2 is loosing power and that most probably stop power.

my current wiring is in this way:

Alarm wires -> Car Ignitition Switch
Red -> 12+ve all time
Yellow -> cutout relay -> Start
Blue -> IGN1
Green -> IGN2
Black -> Ground

its installation manual is so confusing.

at the moment most confusing wire for me is:

Connector 2 (10 Pin), wire no 6 = Blue/White
should i connect this wire to IGN1 or IGN2 or to both with 1 amp diode ???

Right now i have connected this wire to cutout relay on point 85 along with [Connector 2 (10 Pin), wire no 4 = Orange]

Action:
i tried to cut this [Connector 2 (10 Pin), wire no 6 = Blue/White] from point 85
Result:
No change, same.

Action:
connected this [Connector 2 (10 Pin), wire no 6 = Blue/White] to only IGN1
Result:
No change, same.

Action:
connected this [Connector 2 (10 Pin), wire no 6 = Blue/White] to only IGN2
Result:
No change, same.

dont know if its worth to connect this [Connector 2 (10 Pin), wire no 6 = Blue/White] to both IGN1 and IGN2 with 1 amp relay will make any difference.

what do you think?




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 10:04 AM
interesting sitution.

what i did:

connected
[Connector 2, 10 Pin, wire 2 = Yellow] -> Cutout Relay on point 86

and
[Connector 2, 10 Pin, wire 6 = Blue/White] -> Cutout Relay on point 85

but when i disconnected

[Connector 2, 10 Pin, wire 6 = Blue/White] from Cutout Relay on point 85, nothing changed.

so tomorrow may be i should disconnect both
[Connector 2, 10 Pin, wire 2 = Yellow] from Cutout Relay on point 86
and
[Connector 2, 10 Pin, wire 6 = Blue/White] -> Cutout Relay on point 85

to give it a try, may be this is creating a trouble.

and my other finding:

i assumed ignitition switch in this following sequence:

OFF -> IGN1 -> IGN2 -> START

but now it seems like that it should be indeed in this sequence:

OFF -> IGN2 -> IGN1 -> START

so i will have to swape Alarm wires BLUE AND GREEN.

will do this tomorrow and let you guys know, after work. :-)

can someone please confirm this ignitition switch sequence, thanks.




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 10:16 AM
my mistake, actualy my ignitation cables are connect correctly. i connected them according to my car's user manual.

will cust both yellow and blue/white cables tomorrow and try. in meanwhile if you come up with any idea, pls let me know.




Posted By: moshpitmickey
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 9:03 PM
I do not think your problem is in your wiring. I have seen numerous problems with these Mannix systems. The reason it shuts down is because of improper tach signal, even when actually it is the correct way. Try the injector wire like mentioned before. You are right, the instruction manual is so confusing. It has been translated from some other language.

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moshpitmickey




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 8:23 AM
Done re-wiring, and result is same, no change      posted_image

there are four fuel-injectors in my car. every injector has two wires, one common color wire, and other one is in differnt color in every injector.

i assume that i should use uncommon wire, am i correct?

other question is that can i use anyone of these fuel-injectors?

if i use Generator mode instead of Tachometer, which color of wire should i hook to main module of my Mannix? White or some other color??

thanks.posted_image posted_image




Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 8:41 AM
Whats generator mode
 
is that a tachless option




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 5:25 PM
there are two options in Alarm system, i.e. signal either from tachometer or generator.

there is jumper setting, basicaly to switch between them.

another thing i noticed that "IGLOCK" is not working either .

IGLock = when you turn your key to ON position system should lock all your doors.




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 6:00 PM
One thing i forgot to mention:

my car is manual.

tachometer learning is fine (no Error) on both jumper settings.

remote start does not work on manual jumper settings (flashes 3 times)

but all this drama start then stop then restart is happening if i change jumper from manual to automatic.




Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 6:04 PM
Iglock as you call it should be programmable try probram it




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 6:22 PM
yes that very right, IGLock is programmable, and you can turn this ON/OFF.

its definately ON. as i can it on remote as well.

tried it many times, but never worked.

yesterday while driving aroung 100 km/h on highway, all in a sudden this function worked, and all doors locked automaticaly.




Posted By: Montrealler
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 9:31 PM
I dont know the brand of starter you are using. Most of the manual transmission remote starter need you to hook up Hand brake wire and door trigger.
Also as a safety purpose you will need to do a precise sequence to let know the starter that you have left the vehicle in a safe way (We mean here running in neutral and a door have been open so that mean you are outside the car and it is still running so it's safe to shut it down and to re-start it.

If you have the installation guide or a link to it I coul maybe help you.




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 10:04 PM
1 - one wire is attached to handbreak as instructed by alarm manual. remote start only try to start my car if handbreak is pulled, otherwise it gives 3 beeps, and does not try to start at all. so i assume its doing its job.

2 - Door Trigger is connected as well. when i disarm my car, Blue LED starts flashing on fast speed. as soon as i open driver door, it turns Blue LED OFF. if i dont open door, it re-arm itself after 30 seconds.

3 - I am trying to do remote start with locked doors and under armed mode, with pulled hand break and gear bar in neutral.


both following are in Adobe PDF format.
installation manual:
https://www.boomspeed.com/melissaseow/MannixInstallationManual.pdf

user manual:
https://www.boomspeed.com/melissaseow/MannixUserManual.pdf




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 09, 2005 at 6:38 AM
what voltage should i expect on Tach wire?

currently the wire i connected is giving me 28-31 AC volts. am i using correct wire.

checked on few internet websites, which says that it should be between 12-14 AC volts.

pls help.




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 10, 2005 at 6:04 AM
can someone pls help.......




Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: June 10, 2005 at 6:27 AM
i've heard that it should be 5 or 6 volts AC and it will rise with the acceleration thats how to spot it...




Posted By: mirz
Date Posted: June 14, 2005 at 7:15 PM
5-6 volts with running engine or wihtout??





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