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2005 colbalt alarm/remote start wiring

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 07, 2024 at 3:24 PM


Topic: 2005 colbalt alarm/remote start wiring

Posted By: j68rh
Subject: 2005 colbalt alarm/remote start wiring
Date Posted: June 25, 2005 at 6:55 AM

I need a wiring diagram for a 2005 colbalt.  I am installing an alarm with remote start. also I saw a post about the door trigger pins need diodes, is that true?



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Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: June 25, 2005 at 7:02 AM




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: June 25, 2005 at 9:16 AM
Thank you, Hey how can i become a member of that website?




Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: June 25, 2005 at 12:17 PM
Become a directed dealer.....

Gus


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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: June 25, 2005 at 12:52 PM
ok I saw that when I went to the website but the thing is I am in the navy and I just do installs on the side.  I guy I work with owns his own Audio store down in Jacksonville and I am sure he is not going to give me a tax # thing so how can I go about getting that.  Should I open like my own little bussiness for just installs and custom boxs?  I don't know I never got this indepth into it, Like I said I normally just did things on the side.




Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: June 25, 2005 at 2:14 PM
You could also buy the Astrochart program, I'm sure. Here's the thing. Things like Directechs cost DEI several thousand a year to maintain and update as part of their tech support structure. For one to have access to it, you need to stock and sell their security products. Plain and simple. Kind of a side benefit. Even buying/subscribing to something like Astrochart (Astroflex's wiring thing, I believe.... has lots of pictures) can be hard to justify, I know, however. It costs them money to develop it, they aren't going to give it away (they're fools if they do, actually. not good business sense). For the average bcakyard DIY type guy, companies like Design Tech or Bulldog Security have web based support for vehicle info that isn't that bad. DEI info tends to be pretty in depth, but it is quite accurate, and is geared towards prople who do this sort of thing for a living (myself included). You do get what you pay for......

Gus


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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: June 25, 2005 at 2:27 PM
Thats pretty awesome, I am interested into getting involved more indepth like when I get out of the navy to open an Audio/secrutiy shop and I guess all the little bit of info I can get counts.  Hey putting in this remote start on this car am I going to need that key thing for the ignition




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: June 26, 2005 at 1:40 PM
Yes you need a bypass module. The passlock 5 saturn ion type

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Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: June 26, 2005 at 10:50 PM
and where can I get on of those.  So I can tell the guy who owns the car that I am putting the alarm in for to go and get the bypass module.  I am putting in the alarm this saturday comeing up




Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: June 26, 2005 at 11:14 PM
go to your local shop and buy one if possible.  That way you know it is the correct one and if it isn't you can just go back to the shop and get the correct one.




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 02, 2005 at 1:39 PM
Help please help.  I am installing the alarm in the 2005 colbalt.  The car's security device is activated and want let the car start.  How do I reset that also I went by the wiring diagram from dirctech and I can only get the right side blinkers to flash at arm and disarm.  alsoI can't figure out where to place the ignition wires and the start wire from the remote start.  the Dirctech wire matrix says to refer to the dircfax form 1610 for the start wire well I don't have that.  PLease help I have this dudes car at my house and I cant get it to start.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: July 03, 2005 at 1:38 AM




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 03, 2005 at 7:24 AM

This thing says to connect the pink wire to the cars blue ignition wire for 5 to 10 seconds what if this car doesn't have a blue wire it has a brown, yellow, green, RED / white, white, and black and white. 





Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 03, 2005 at 5:09 PM
I figured out how to get it all wired the thing now is it goes throught the start up process every thing turns on like the radio and AC but the engine doesn't crank.  where do I stick the start wire?




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: July 04, 2005 at 1:39 AM
the car has NO starter wire.....

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Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 04, 2005 at 7:37 AM

if you look at the link in here the starter wire is in the Powertrain control module and it is a negative feed.   what I am thinking is use a relay to change the polarity from the alarm and tie it into the starter wire.





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 04, 2005 at 9:46 AM
The Colbalt uses the new Passlock systems where the 2nd IGN, Passlock & the key sense wires are built together. The starter cranks only  when the ACC wire falls out and comes back on. Also, is this an automatic Colbalt or manual ? Did you bypass the clutch if itis a manual ?

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 04, 2005 at 1:58 PM
ITs an automatic.  I found more problems with this car I went be the diagram and the outside temp gauge does not work and the damn car wont shift gears and the speedometer isn't working what is the damn problem with this thing




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 04, 2005 at 2:00 PM

Velocity Motors wrote:

The Colbalt uses the new Passlock systems where the 2nd IGN, Passlock & the key sense wires are built together. The starter cranks only  when the ACC wire falls out and comes back on. Also, is this an automatic Colbalt or manual ? Did you bypass the clutch if itis a manual ?

what do you mean the ACC wire falls out and comes back on?





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 04, 2005 at 5:58 PM
j68rh, use the PLXR bypass module from bypasskits. This is the module that we use for all the ION type passlock systems and it works great. If your having problems with the system I suggest removing the bypass relays and see if your problems are still there.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 04, 2005 at 8:23 PM
I plan on doing that.  Tomorrow I am takeing the system out and seeing if the problem is still there if it is or not I am going to tell the person to take the car in for a diagnostic.  Just to verify.  The bypass module I used is the one from DEI.  I stuck one of those home computer diagnostic computers on and it would not link with the cars computer.  I think the Remote start shorted out the cars computer.  I will now more tomorrow




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 05, 2005 at 2:05 PM
Alright, my start wire is yellow.  My to ignition wires are brown and my ACC wire is Blue.  this is comeing off the remote start module.  from looking at the wire diagram and the direct fax document 1610 how would I hook this up????




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 06, 2005 at 9:19 AM

Velocity Motors wrote:

j68rh, use the PLXR bypass module from bypasskits. This is the module that we use for all the ION type passlock systems and it works great. If your having problems with the system I suggest removing the bypass relays and see if your problems are still there.

Velocitymotors,

I was wondering according to the diagram and my wire colors on the remote start.  My starter wire is Yellow my 2 ignition wires are brown and my ACC wire is blue.  And on the document 1610 I took the pink wire like it said and hooked it up to the one ignition wire but where do the other wires go on this thing? 





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 06, 2005 at 11:12 AM

There is a white wire and a WHITE/ black wire at the ignition harness that performs the following: key sense, second ignition, starter, and Passlock resistance. You do not need to hook up a starter wire for these types of systems.When accessory shuts down during the start cycle the vehicle will crank automatically. Here are the wires that you have for the Cobalt:

  12 VOLTS

RED / black ----- C3 plug on BCM in center console * THE BCM is located in the passenger side of the center console. It has 4 plug running left to right C1 (72-pin), C2(72-pin), C3(40-pin) & C4 (not used).

 
IGNITION

Yellow ---- Ignition switch harness or C4 plug on BCM *THE BCM is located in the passenger side of the center console. It has 4 plug running left to right C1 (72-pin), C2(72-pin), C3(40-pin) & C4 (not used).

 
ACCESSORY

Brown ------ Ignition switch harness or C4 plug on BCM  *THE BCM is located in the passenger side of the center console. It has 4 plug running left to right C1 (72-pin), C2(72-pin), C3(40-pin) & C4 (not used).

Remember that the instructions that are labelled on the 555L are generic for the Saturn Ion and does not necessarily pertain to the Cobalt. If you are using the 555L for your vehicle, take the information for the wire description and not the wire color.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 06, 2005 at 2:43 PM
Velocity Motors wrote:

There is a white wire and a WHITE/ black wire at the ignition harness that performs the following: key sense, second ignition, starter, and Passlock resistance. You do not need to hook up a starter wire for these types of systems.When accessory shuts down during the start cycle the vehicle will crank automatically. Here are the wires that you have for the Cobalt:

  12 VOLTS

RED / black ----- C3 plug on BCM in center console * THE BCM is located in the passenger side of the center console. It has 4 plug running left to right C1 (72-pin), C2(72-pin), C3(40-pin) & C4 (not used).

 
IGNITION

Yellow ---- Ignition switch harness or C4 plug on BCM *THE BCM is located in the passenger side of the center console. It has 4 plug running left to right C1 (72-pin), C2(72-pin), C3(40-pin) & C4 (not used).

 
ACCESSORY

Brown ------ Ignition switch harness or C4 plug on BCM  *THE BCM is located in the passenger side of the center console. It has 4 plug running left to right C1 (72-pin), C2(72-pin), C3(40-pin) & C4 (not used).

Remember that the instructions that are labelled on the 555L are generic for the Saturn Ion and does not necessarily pertain to the Cobalt. If you are using the 555L for your vehicle, take the information for the wire description and not the wire color.


So let me get this straight the brown wire  Is the C4 plug well C4 isn't that on the right side? or is it also on the passanger side?  So my blue ACC (blue from the remote start wire) goes to this brown Ignition or does my second Ignition go to this wire.

The twelve volt source goes to the 12 volt red wire of the remote starter module what else goes to that.  does my Yellow start wire from the remote start go there also?

Does my ignition wire brown from the remote start does it go to the yellow ignition wire in the car?

C4 is the one on the back side of the BCM reached on the driver side isn't it?  Please help I am lost on this car? just please clear up?  See when you look at the BCM J1 would also be C1 right and and J1 runs horizontal and blue and grey.  J2(C2) is vertical and the connector is blue and grey.  J3 Is a big red one it also runs horizontal.  Where is the C4(J4) is it red and on the back side or is it on the passenger side?





Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: July 07, 2005 at 7:54 AM

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these pictures are of the BCM and where the connectors are



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Posted By: zfactor
Date Posted: July 08, 2005 at 12:15 AM
555l works great on these i have done many of them already along with numerous ions. they are the same setup. follow directfax doc 1610 when wiring up the 555l do a search in the forums it is here. look up 1610 it will come up.





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