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Viper 800 ESP on 99 Accord

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Printed Date: May 29, 2024 at 3:46 AM


Topic: Viper 800 ESP on 99 Accord

Posted By: ThEvil0nE
Subject: Viper 800 ESP on 99 Accord
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 10:49 AM

Greetings to all,

This would be my 1st post. I just purchsed the Viper 800 ESP (140.00+S/H). I think I have just enough (or almost) experience about car installs. I installed everything (audio-set-up) myself and most of my friends but haven't tried installing a Security system (quite intimidating). There is an exsisting basic alarm installed btw the I-have-to-get-rid-of-this-thing CHECKMATE. I know you guys would love to see me get that thing off my system...so I'm begging you... pls. pls... help me out here. If you guys can show me and help me install the V-800 ESP I would really appreciate that.

If you guys can walk me through on the installation, I would be more than willing to brave the winter cold and crawl in and under my car if I have to.

My car is a 4cyl. auto trans. btw.

Thank you very much in advance and happy holidays!



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99 Accord
17" R-Tech
225/45 Kumho Ecsta Supra
AutoPC / GPS
Audio Control EQX2
2 Infinity Kappa Amps (F/R)
1 Infinity Beta Class D (Subs)
2 1Farad L-Caps
6.5 MBQ / 6x9 MBQ
3 10" MTX sld-b



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Posted By: joelr7309
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 12:25 PM

Well if you pretty good at installing a car stereo and really familiar with wire diagrams and know how to use a DMM meter, first thing you have to look for is your manual for your alarm,  print this out if you don't have one

1. https://www.directed.com/guides/pdfs/N381V.pdf   is the alarm manual

2.  1999 Honda Accord Alarm Information

3, Give me your e/m and I'll send you a manual on how to install alarms. IS THERE A REMOTE START on this alarm?



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THE ROOKIE!~




Posted By: nubiannupe
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 12:44 PM

Just to add to this line of questioning (btw, this is MY first post too..), I'm putting a remote start on a 99 accord 2dr V6.  I'm 98% sure that I installed everything correctly (proper tach sense wire, BOTH ign and accy wires powered up).  However, when I activate the remote start, starter will engage, but it won't start.  One of the things I'm unsure if is if this model requires a transponder bypass module or if there's a factory security system that needs to be disarmed for remote starts to activate. 

Any insight that anyone could give me would be helpful, as this is a present for my gf, and I'm doing this while she is at work..

Oh, and just so you know, I'm installing a Crimestopper CS-700 II.





Posted By: joelr7309
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 1:38 PM
is your a auto or manual 5-speed?

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THE ROOKIE!~




Posted By: nubiannupe
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 1:53 PM
Oops, sorry bout that.... it's an autoTRAGIC.  posted_image




Posted By: joelr7309
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 2:10 PM

Make sure you have your starter  wire hooked up on the remote relay, and ground  your safety toggle switch if you have one,  see  if your  relays are working fine on your remote start,

Does this alarm come basic with a remote start,  or is it an add on?

Like the rest of the new alarms like Clifford and Viper550esp then come standard,



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THE ROOKIE!~




Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 3:20 PM
Say, TheEvilOne!, where did you get your Viper 800 from?

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J Rilla

Owner/Installer




Posted By: ThEvil0nE
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 4:58 PM

Thanks for the infos! I do have the MANUAL for the alarm (downloaded it frm site). Has anyone of you installed the V-800 ESP? If so, have anyone encountered any difficulties or came up with something a bit confusing that needs extra attention?

More safety/handy TIPS will be more than welcome posted_image

In respond:

*** joelr7309 - 3, Give me your e/m and I'll send you a manual on how to install alarms. IS THERE A REMOTE START on this alarm?

Thanks man! icufsh2@yahoo.com REMOTE START is an OPTION on the 800ESP in which I would be adding. Here's a link of the 800ESP features just in case https://www.drdetailshop.com/VIPERCOMPARE.html 

***jrilla - Say, TheEvilOne!, where did you get your Viper 800 from?Say, TheEvilOne!, where did you get your Viper 800 from?

Bought it new from Ebay :) It was "buy it now DUTCH auction" for 139.99+s/h. Was it a good deal posted_image ???





Posted By: jamiejackson
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 9:19 PM

nubiannupe

On your Honda Accord you have a transponder factory security system.  To bypass this system you have two options:  1.   There's a module you can purchase from any audio store  2.   You can hard wire yourself .  Take the stering column down, around the key cyclinder is where the actual transpondser is located.  First take your spare key and somehow attach it close to the cyclinder.  Try to remote start your vechile, it might take a little bit of effort moving the key around if you can get it to work hot glue or somehow attach your spare key there.  And put your column back on.  If you use the module it would be better and safer, it is expensive but well worth it.  Just take your time and read your instructions.





Posted By: AlarmTech
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 9:24 PM

thats an EXCELLENT deal!

it does have alot of extras, so plan it out well before putting anything in the car, bench prep it as much as possible for all the options your going to use, or use in the future. Take your time and do it right the first time. The Accord is a very simple car, only bummer is the door trigger on the passengers side in the fuse box multiplex. Other than that, it's pretty basic. So hide things well.



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Viper Equipped




Posted By: dcash18
Date Posted: December 12, 2002 at 9:30 PM
Nubian, you need a DEI 555U to bypass the factory security system.  There is a chip in your key that has to be within a certain proximity of the ignition in your vehicle or the car wont start.  Hook this up and it should crank up like a champ.




Posted By: nubiannupe
Date Posted: December 13, 2002 at 5:14 AM
Hey, folks... thanks for the info.  I wasn't all together sure if it was transponder-based or not, since the wiring diagram wasn't clear on that.  Now that I know, I'll be able to finish up.  Thanks again.

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G. Rick (aka; Tha "R")
**Peter North is my idol***
MECP-Certified 1st Class Installer




Posted By: ThEvil0nE
Date Posted: December 13, 2002 at 4:16 PM

To:  AlarmTech  -  Thanks man. Got more tips?

Here's another concern... I'm in NYC and I just use "street parking" w/c is not too good. My car got "hit" 3 times now... 1st was the PIAA fog lamps posted_image ... then twice they popped the side mirrors posted_image  and in all instances the I-have-to-get-rid-of-this-thing CHECKMATE alarm did not set off!

As you can see I will be (crossing fingers) installing the Viper 800ESP. This will be my 1st ever alarm install so bear with me at the moment. I just want to do this the right way (with all your help of course) to save me further headaches of doing "back-jobs" on my work.

How can I set-up/wire the alarm so it will surely  "set-off" when some bastard will hit me again with the side mirrors and the fog lamps?

Thanks again in advance!





Posted By: AlarmTech
Date Posted: December 13, 2002 at 9:55 PM

simply increase the sensitivity of the shock sensor. your neighbours may not like you much though. For added protection, you can get a 508D Proximity sensor. There's also the 507T digital tilt sensor.

the main thing with the 800ESP is the extras, if you feel you might, just might use a certain feature in the future, wire it up. can't hurt. Leave any fused connections fuse-less untill needed or use a small 3-5amp fuse.

Solder all connections, run wires in taped looms that resemble the factory style looms. Use split tube loom for engine bay wire runs and use rubber or plastic grommets for wires that go through the firewall. Fuse all power connections, ensure a solid bare metal ground point and use plenty of zip ties posted_image

I have a small Alarm FAQ on my site if you wanted to look it over. https://automediazone.com/pro/FAQ/mainpage2.htm  although this site seems to have some good tech info.



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Viper Equipped




Posted By: AzaEvilSc(+)pe
Date Posted: December 14, 2002 at 12:20 AM

have you checked the nuetral safety switch ?   

i usually ground it permanently

    good luck       AzaEvilSc(+)pe





Posted By: ThEvil0nE
Date Posted: December 14, 2002 at 6:35 PM
Quote: Originally posted by AlarmTech on December 13, 2002

simply increase the sensitivity of the shock sensor. your neighbours may not like you much though. For added protection, you can get a 508D Proximity sensor. There's also the 507T digital tilt sensor.


The tilt sensor will be on my list but making the sensitivity of the shock sensor I think I'll skip ( even me hates cars with "delicate" shock sensors... wakes you up in the middle of the night... and worse, i might wake up with a flower-pot atop my car LOL ). About the proximity sensor, I have to do more research and readings on different ways how it would act/react or settings so as to it won't be too annoying.

Any more recommendations? Is there some way I can wire my fog-lights that sets the alarm off when the "+12V and/or the neg-ground" will be disconnected?  I hope you guys won't get tired of my Qs and concerns posted_image ... safety first right? posted_image

And btw... good job on your site AlarmTech... Thanx!





Posted By: AlarmTech
Date Posted: December 14, 2002 at 10:04 PM

ya, key scratches, kicked door dents, nasty notes written in lipstick, shaving cream on all the glass...you name it, i've heard it...but a flower pot...thats a new one. Ahhh, city life :)

As for the fog lights, the 12v wire would have no effect, since it only has 12v when they are on. But you could use the ground wire to trigger a relay if cut. Not sure about the long term drain effect it would have, being as my idea is to have the relay constantly energized, just off the top of my head...the chassis ground should be connected as close as possible to the foglight case or internally if possible. As theives usually cut things short, you want to be sure they cut the wire after the connection to ground, then that same wire goes to a relay.

85 - ground from foglight

86 - 12v + fused

87a - 12v + fused

30 - to (usually) unused positive alarm trigger wire

87 - no connection

when the ground from the fog light is cut, the relay clicks off and 87A is now in contact with 30 triggering the alarm.



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Viper Equipped





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