Viper 791XV, 93 Pontiac TransAm

Hey guys,

    Anyone free for a bit to help me install the DEI Viper 791XV into my Pontiac TransAm? It is a 1993, I have the printed wire location out, just wanting to check some things with someone who's more knowledgable than I am @ alarm installs. My AIM name is MxRacer476. I am online now, and have the laptop next to the car, so IM me if your free to help! It's mainly just dbl checking Relay Connections, and 5-Wire Door lock. Also the 791XV is a Remote Start, but I have a T56, so can I still use it, the car is never in gear when shut off, it's always in Neutral, and parking brake applied. That's the only other "?" I have. Any help you guys give I would greatly appreciate it!!!

The car is under a bumper to bumper build, no motor, or anything is in it...the inteiror is gutted getting fiberglassesed so I can't take it anywhere....

A few member have been in touch, one was Whitey somethin on AIM, but he told me he would help me on Thursday night, and hasn't been in touch with me since. So I was lookin for someone else, I'm kinda upset regarding the whole thing, because I told him I would come home if he would help there car is 97 miles away from where I stay for school, so I drove home basically for nothing now, since he hasn't gotten in touch with me, and I head back for school in the morning...

So if there is anyone willing to help me I would appreciate it, I don't want some tech installing this, and not giving a shhh for painted interior pieces, that are treated like body panels that I have basecoat/clearcoated....So I would appreciate it if someone can help. Obviously I'm a novice in alarm yes, but not in stereo, and other aspects of a car....So I'm not completely in the dark on this, I just want to make sure I get the connections right...

like verlosity motors has said you are taking on a huge projrct with limited knoldge. but if your dead set on doing it yourself. as i understand you situation with the car being unable to move. then i would start with small questions breaking that whole big question down into sections. start with one curcuit your having questions on a be specific in your wording.

the relay you posted, 87a ,rests at what ever polarity you have hooked up to 30 then when the relays coil is energized it will goto 87and complete the curcuit you are trying to control (that you have severed). the relays coil needs a positive and a negitive to actuvate the relay.(get it to pull). by apllying pos. to 85 and neg. to 86 or visa versa. they can be switched or constant to one depending on the applacation and the other will be how the relay gets commanded on.

That Whitey guy I was talkin to told me I not to install anything till I am ready to install all of it, all I have done is mount the brains, and the sirens, supplied a 12V wire, and ground into the cabin. It's not the fact of not bein able to take it anywhere cuz the motor is out of it, but more the fact of not wanting to with the interior installed since it will be painted, and fiberglassed, for someone to crack, or gouge the paint, because some tech was careless with an install.

yes it would be better to do it all at once but not nessary because the car ain't going no where. if you want keep track of the posts. you still havnt asked a real question. if your lookin for use to hook this thing up for you in one post i cant help. maybe someone else can. but untill you get some more specific questions i cant give you no advice.

Hey guys,

I'm doing the install, on the Satellite Relay, it has a PINK, and a PINK/WHITE wire, my info for my car only shows one Pink IGN. wire, but yet there are 2 diff pink wires in the IGN switch...one is darker than the other...Which should I use? Also how would I recognize the accy wire on this car....

1993 Pontiac TransAm

Feel free to IM me ASAP on AIM @ MxRacer476

there probably are two pink wires in your ignition harness. take your pick, they are the same wire. Make sure you test them first to make sure, but a lot of GM cars do this. also the "Darker" pink wire is actually your red wire which is 12v+.

There is a Red, Yellow, Brown, Dark Pink, and Light Pink...so the red would be the 12V +  The 2 Pink wires are the same AWG, but just one is darker than the other. What should I test to know the difference? 

Jacqueslacombe, so you think the Darker pink is the battery, so go with the lighter pink?

Mobile1, if there was 2 wires, why would none of the wiring diagrams show it, as far the ones on here, the one I have, and the one on BulldogSecurity.com only show one pink wire...

Ok, and use the brown wire in that same harness for the accy, even tho the sheet says ACCY is ORG right of Driver's Kick?

Hey guys,

Both PINK (Dark and Light) go to the sam PIN on the IGN Switch....Tested it, showed like ,75, the red did show 13V+ so that's the constant....So would you guess either pink wire woudl be fine, or to take one of the PINK from the Satellite to each of them? Also, if that's the case which should go to which, (PINK, and PINK/WHITE) to Light Pink, and Dark Pink....

Next up the 451M Door Lock interface. If one of you guys could IM me on AOL, or AIM @ MxRacer476 I would greatly appreciate it!!!

Also the Brown wire in that switch was never addressed, as far as that being the ACCY wire, or to look for one of the 50 orange wires, along the dirvers kick panel....

If memory serves the 451M should be wired like so:

WHITE/ Black -- switch side of cut lock wire

GREEN/ Black -- motor side of cut lock wire

PURPLE / Black -- +12V constant

BROWN / Black -- switch side of cut unlock wire

Blue/Black -- motor side of cut unlock wire

Purple -- +12V constant

Lock is RED / black and unlock is ORANGE / black both at the keyless entry module behind the passenger kick.  Then just plug the ribbon cable into the RS. 

On the 791VX which wire is the intant trigger wire as well

As for the Satellite Relay, no-one ever cleared up on the Brown wire being the accy, in the ign switch, or to hunt for the orange wire "right of the driver's kick" like the paper says...

The IGN Switch has:

Red, Yellow, Brown, Dark Pink & Pink (both connected to the same pin on the switch)

You can use the blue wire in the primary harness listed as trunk trigger as an instant trigger.  As for the satellite relay just hook up the pink to one of the pink ignition wires in the car.  Hook up the pink/white wire to the brown wire in the car and program it as a second accessory.  You can find the orange accessory wire just to the right of the center console.  If you pull back the carpeting you will find a wiring harness running behind the center console.  Unwrap some of the tape and you will find three wires with a tag on them that says "accessory plug".  Hook the orange wire out of the relay pack to the orange wire at this location.

On second thought it might not be a good idea to use that orange wire as the accessory wire for the remote start.  You will need to find the wire as it comes off of the ignition switch.

Thanks!!

Hey guys,

    I have a 1993 Pontiac TransAm with a DEI Viper 791VX in it....using the vehicle wiring databse I found this...

So will I use the 451m or not, it just says the LOCK is reverse polarity.  The Passenger switch is the master switch, but it has a small guage of wire. I thought reverse polarity systems were heavy guage? The driver's switch (that has a passenger switch with it) is the same small guage....

You don't use resistors with this 5 wire........
Youwill need

2 SPDT RELAYS:

Cut LOCK  & UNLOCK Wire in Half.
One Half goes to SWITCH
One Half goes to ACTUATOR

Relay 1

LOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a =  wire from Door Lock Switch
PIN 30 =  wire to Actuator
PIN 85 = Negative Lock Output from Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )

Relay 2

UNLOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a =  wire from Door UnLock Switch
PIN 30 =  wire to Actuator
PIN 85 = Negative UnLock Output from Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )

Last I checked that's what the 451m did, am I wrong? It is suppose to be an interface so you don't have to use relay's...I have a 451m here next to me...

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