any Real manual remote starts out there
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Topic: any Real manual remote starts out there
Posted By: m2736185
Subject: any Real manual remote starts out there
Date Posted: November 09, 2006 at 8:53 PM
Are there any real manual remote starts out there or are there any tricks in making a regular r/s safe for manual? I was about to get the compustar for manual the 1.25Mi one...then i found out in order for it to start you need to get out of the driver side door while the car is running....then stop the car with the remote..or some bs like that talk about an inconvenience for a concenience. Im looking for atleast 2500 ft and below $200 any tips or suggestions appreciated
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Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 09, 2006 at 9:30 PM
m2736185 wrote:
Are there any real manual remote starts out there or are there any tricks in making a regular r/s safe for manual?
We were always told that it's illegal to install a remote start in a car with a manual tranny. With this in mind then no reputable company is going to want to be held liable for a lawsuit if (when) someone gets killed because their product was installed in the car.
Posted By: theronsmith
Date Posted: November 09, 2006 at 9:56 PM
I would go with the compustar it is the best one I have used. all you have to do is make sure the e break is on and it will take over...after you shut the door it will lock the door and shut down itself....
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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: November 09, 2006 at 11:03 PM
m2736185, if you can design a better system that makes sure a manual transmission car is in neutral, then go ahead. The Exit routine that the Compustar uses, as well as other systems is designed around safety.
Lets see how hard the "inconvenience" of a manual transmission Compustar is...
You get where you are going and apply the parking brake....you do that already.
You get where you are going and leave the car in neutral....you do that already.
You turn the key off, open the door, get out, and close the door.....you do that already.
Only difference, the car is running when you get out of the car. The car shuts off and locks the doors. You don't even have to press any buttons. Later, you press a button on a remote....the car starts.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: November 09, 2006 at 11:04 PM
angelars wrote:
m2736185 wrote:
Are there any real manual remote starts out there or are there any tricks in making a regular r/s safe for manual?
We were always told that it's illegal to install a remote start in a car with a manual tranny. With this in mind then no reputable company is going to want to be held liable for a lawsuit if (when) someone gets killed because their product was installed in the car.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. You must work for a DEI dealer....
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 8:04 AM
I have done several ultra starts deigned for manuals and they are perfectly safe if installed properly. I also have done a couple of the compustars designed for manuals again no problems if installed properly...
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Posted By: m2736185
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 8:29 AM
JWworm: I was told that you have to apply the brake put it in neutral then YOU MUST get out of the drivers side door if you open any other door or even the trunk it will not start again...then you have to press a button once you are out of the car to stop it. Also the remote for the 2WSS-S is kinda big do they have a 1 way remore you can carry around with you? So what do you guys think between the viper 5900 and the Compustar 2WSS-S
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 8:49 AM
JWorm] wrote:
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Actually we do. Ask your friendly police officer if you have a law called "unattended vehicle'. It might be a state by state thing. The law reads that the car cannot be started or running without an adult being in the car. It's not aimed at remote starters, it's aimed as a safety issue.
Posted By: SoundAudio
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 8:56 AM
I know the local city has an ordiance like that , but the cops aren't dicks about it when it is cold, and with them it was more of a theft issue. People would start their cars with the key and leave them in the drive way, stupid. I like the compustar myself.
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Good Luck!
-Thad
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 10:08 AM
I believe jworm was refering to to remote starters for manual transmissions not state laws or local ordinaces. Every county, city or state has some goofy ordinace or law on everything I read in some cities its illegal to chew gum in public???????
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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 4:01 PM
angelars wrote:
JWorm] wrote:
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Actually we do. Ask your friendly police officer if you have a law called "unattended vehicle'. It might be a state by state thing. The law reads that the car cannot be started or running without an adult being in the car. It's not aimed at remote starters, it's aimed as a safety issue.
How do you go from...putting a remote start in a manual transmission car is illegal ....to what you just posted above? Wouldn't the "unattended vehicle" law apply to any vehicle that is remote started? I guess we should shut down this forum because we are all engaging in discussing illegal activity....the installation of remote starters.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 4:15 PM
m2736185 wrote:
JWworm: I was told that you have to apply the brake put it in neutral then YOU MUST get out of the drivers side door
Do you not do this now? Do you like to crawl out of a back door, or maybe the passenger door? Also, the remote start will not know what door you get out of. It just needs to see a door open, and then close.
m2736185 wrote:
J if you open any other door or even the trunk it will not start again...then you have to press a button once you are out of the car to stop it.
After you exit the car, you can NOT go back inside without cancelling the remote start reservation mode. If you did, the remote start has no idea if you put the car into gear. You CAN disarm the alarm, go into the trunk, close the trunk, arm the alarm and then remote start the car. You DO NOT have to press a button to shut off the car once you get out. It shuts OFF once the last door is closed.
m2736185 wrote:
JAlso the remote for the 2WSS-S is kinda big do they have a 1 way remore you can carry around with you?
They do make a smaller 1-way remote. It is not included with the 2WSS-S. Look at the 2W900FM-S. The 2-way remote is a little smaller and a tiny 1-way remote is included. Range is up to 3000 feet.
m2736185 wrote:
So what do you guys think between the viper 5900 and the Compustar 2WSS-S
The Viper 5900 does not have any safety precautions to prevent it from starting in gear. You may never leave the car in gear, but if someone borrows your car or a mechanic presses the start button when it is in gear then the car will go launching forward. I recommend the Compustar 2W900FM-S over both of your choices.
By the way, what is the year, make and model of your car?
Posted By: m2736185
Date Posted: November 10, 2006 at 11:24 PM
2000 Neon
Posted By: mthisguy
Date Posted: November 15, 2006 at 1:19 PM
I have used the Compustar your looking at on both auto and manual models, no problems whatsoever. With the manual when you set the park brake and take your foot off the brake and take the keys out the remote start keeps the car running until you get out, then it shuts off the engine. Since you couldnt have gotten out of the car with the engine running with it in gear the remote start knows its in neutral. As a safety precaution if you get in the car after its armed and has not been started it will not remote start because you could have put it in gear while you were in the car. The compustar is a 1 shot deal though, once you cut the wire to make it work with a manual trans. you cant go back to automatic mode. I can tell you from experience the SS model has double the range of the other models, I tried a standard FM model and it's range was about 1.5 blocks at very most, with my SS I have about 1/2 mile reliable range. Its a 5 minute walk at a brisk pace from where I start mine to where its parked and also have 1 building between me and the vehicle. Works very well.
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