2006 Liberty, 555cw
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=87338
Printed Date: May 13, 2024 at 11:09 PM
Topic: 2006 Liberty, 555cw
Posted By: ralph69
Subject: 2006 Liberty, 555cw
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 9:47 AM
Hi, I have a 2006 Liberty that just won't work with this 555cw module. I have a Designtech 40027 WITHOUT the wait to start, which I believe I need. In theory, I THINK that when you enter "learning" mode after putting in the 2 different ignition keys, you initialize the autostart to start, but during wait to start it keeps the ignition engergized for good period of time "without" the key and the new transponder from the bypass module next to the ignition to "learn" the 3rd code. Am I correct? If so, how can I make the bypass module work without a wait to start feature...a little confused:( Thanks for any input guys.
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Posted By: Scott35
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 10:20 AM
Is this a diesel?
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Tacomacrew
Posted By: ralph69
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 10:26 AM
NO, I'm trying to program the bypass, and this is what it wants from the unit after the two factory keys put it in learning mode.
Posted By: ralph69
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 8:41 PM
Anyone/? what if I make ignition 1, 2 and acc. hot, and disconnect starter wire? anyone have this?
Posted By: shaip99
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 8:49 PM
all you need to do is ground the ignition wire that is what the wait to start does when the instructions say to hold the wait to start wire to the igntion all you need to do is substitute a ground wire and connect that to the ignition wire it keeps the unit from starting allowing the 555c to program ------------- "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd
all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive
music."-Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc.
Posted By: ralph69
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 9:27 PM
So your saying pull off Ignition 1, and put a ground wire to the the unit, and the unit will see a ground and keep the accessories hot for the programming?
Posted By: mando2155
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 10:25 PM
I would like to know if this works because i can never get the 555cw to work on liberties or grand cherokees.
Posted By: ralph69
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 8:47 PM
shaip99 wrote:
all you need to do is ground the ignition wire that is what the wait to start does
when the instructions say to hold the wait to start wire to the igntion all you need to do is substitute a ground wire and connect that to the ignition wire it keeps the unit from starting allowing the 555c to program
The Saga continues: I called Designtech today. Grounding the ignition won't keep the accessory wire powered up for programing, they said run +12v to the ignition & accessory(why both???) to keep it powered up for programming, exactly the opposite of what you say...This is a Christmas present for the wife, she works till 10 on Thursday, and that's my last chance to finish this!!! They also said 555cw has the wrong transponder for 2006 and to buy a 556cw. My other question is I have 2 accessory wires and I figure I only need one for the heater...in using one the wipers won't have the opportunity to kick on with a foot of snow on the windshield if they are on the other Accessory, can anyone confirm this? Does anyone else have any other input, I'm using a relay and 970ohm resistor to ground to make up the (-) parking light wire, and the rest is textbook.
Thanks for the input guys..:)
Posted By: mando2155
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 12:28 AM
Usually tech sheets list the acc that will kick on the heaters as the first acc. At least all the ones ive seen have been that way.
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 3:31 AM
Get the 556CW for the 2006 because the 555C is for 2002-2004 Libertys, then try using this process to program.
https://www.the12volt.com/uploads/files/555C_Alternate%20procedure.pdf
Use both Yellow/Pink wires, use the accesory output wire on the wire that powers the blower circuit. Use the 2nd ignition output on the other Yellow/Pink. Otherwise you won't have AC compressor power for cooling in the summer. ------------- Steve G
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 9:36 AM
actually the 2006's etc with the keyless in the key are super easy to do....you snap apart the shell and remove the back of the first key... then put it in as the first key... when you switch keys and put the second key in you just remove the little rubber membrane with the keyless and transponder chip inside... then you use this key with now nothing in it as the third key when learning the bpass module..... doing it this way should never take longer than the required 30-40 seconds to learn a bypass module, regardless of brand..... and as mentioned you will need a 556C not a 555C...... or equivalent.... ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 11:53 AM
We took apart the FOB/transponder like that and were trying to program a bypass the other day and found that it didn't even need the bypass. Wondered why we weren't getting the bypass to learn. After all was said and done it started fine with no bypass. We removed the bypass unit from the harness and closed it up. Starts everytime and I'm pretty sure it was an 06.
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Steve G
Posted By: ralph69
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 8:22 PM
EXCELLENT info. kgerry and iskidoo. I REALLY appreciate it. I'll keep you posted on what happens Thursday.
Thanks again
Posted By: ralph69
Date Posted: December 21, 2006 at 7:29 PM
Guys, I'm in the middle of it now, the (-) signal for the parking lights work, the relay picks and they fire up BEFORE the car starts, than, the car won't attempt to start...gonna give it heck, but pressed for time. will check back in a few minutes...PS. NO delay for accessories either, they come on instant and I see no adjustment for this in the options, Thanks.
Posted By: mlaurenza
Date Posted: December 22, 2006 at 7:11 AM
The 555C should work with the grey key but not the key w/keyless. The 556C is the bypass for key w/keyless. Does the r/s have a setting for deisel mode (10,20,30 seconds)? If so program to 30 sec. so you can program the bypass then set it back. This will keep the acces. hot and ignigion hot for 30 secs. That is plenty of time to program.
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: December 22, 2006 at 7:46 AM
Did you get the bypass programmed successfully? If the unit is not attempting a start then check to make sure the brake input is not seeing +12v and the hood input is not seeing ground.
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Steve G
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