2007 vw jetta remote start?
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Topic: 2007 vw jetta remote start?
Posted By: christopher418
Subject: 2007 vw jetta remote start?
Date Posted: March 13, 2007 at 10:53 AM
Does anyone have a diagram for a 2007 VW Jetta for a remote starter? Thanks, Chris
Replies:
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: March 14, 2007 at 12:30 AM
| PASSIVE ANTI-THEFT | YES | TRANSPONDER | SEE NOTES | | 12 VOLTS | Red | At fuse/junction block below dash | + | | IGNITION | Yellow | On back of ignition switch | + | | | | Remove the plastic cover around the steering column and you will see a small black box mounted to column held by 1 torx screw. Remove this box to expose the ignition key wires, they are all 22 gauge. |
| | ACCESSORY | Green | On back of ignition switch | + | | | | Remove the plastic cover around the steering column and you will see a small black box mounted to column held by 1 torx screw. Remove this box to expose the ignition key wires, they are all 22 gauge. |
| | STARTER | Red | On back of ignition switch | + | | | | Remove the plastic cover around the steering column and you will see a small black box mounted to column held by 1 torx screw. Remove this box to expose the ignition key wires, they are all 22 gauge. |
| | KEY SENSE | Blue | On back of ignition switch | + | | | | Remove the plastic cover around the steering column and you will see a small black box mounted to column held by 1 torx screw. Remove this box to expose the ignition key wires, they are all 22 gauge. |
| | TACH SIGNAL | Use a fuel injector | | | | DIESEL TACH SIGNAL | Tan/green | SEE NOTES | | | | | Remove the cover over the battery and you will see 2 harnesses against the firewall. The wire is located in one of the 2 harnesses. |
| | FUEL INJECTOR | Opposite from RED / black | At any injector on engine | AC | | LOCK | GREEN / WHITE or BROWN / green | At module in driver's door | - | | | | One wire system uses straight ground to lock/arm and ground through a 240-ohm resistor to Unlock/Disarm (double pulse to unlock all doors). |
| | UNLOCK | GREEN / WHITE or BROWN / green | At module in driver's door | - | | | | One wire system uses straight ground to lock/arm and ground through a 240-ohm resistor to Unlock/Disarm (double pulse to unlock all doors). |
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| GLO-PLUG SIGNAL | DATA ONLY | Use a 15 second start delay | | | DOORPIN | RED / yellow | At light under dash | - | | HOODPIN | BROWN / red | At pinswitch in engine compartment | - | | TRUNK RELEASE | Blue | At switch in driver's door | - | | FACTORY ARM | Arms with lock wire | | | | FACTORY DISARM | Disarms with unlock wire | | | | BRAKESWITCH | BLACK/ red | On fusebox or in driver's kickpanel | + | | PARKLIGHTS | SEE NOTES | | | | | | Parklights require some special wiring, please see the provided diagram. |
| | HAND BRAKE | BROWN / yellow | At switch on parkbrake lever | - |
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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: March 14, 2007 at 12:36 AM
The parking lights: At the switch find a RED / white. cut it, take the switch side to pin 87a, take the other end to pin 30. Take and connect pin 87 to the blk/wht at the switch. 85 to ground, 86 gets the 12v parking light trigger from your unit.
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 14, 2007 at 8:13 AM
As well, you do not need to remove the AIRBAG/security box as stated in the wire diagram. THis is just more work and needless removal of the module. You can access the ignition wires in the loom of wires that are coming out of the back of the black module attached to the steering column.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 14, 2007 at 8:14 AM
Thanks for the post. I have everything working except for the locks. I can get the lock to work but when I used a 240 ohm resistor, it doesn't work the unlock. I have checked the value and tried other values close to it but still nothing. Has anyone ever got this to work? I used the BROWN / green wire. Thanks, Chris
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: March 14, 2007 at 9:10 AM
christopher418 wrote:
Thanks for the post. I have everything working except for the locks. I can get the lock to work but when I used a 240 ohm resistor, it doesn't work the unlock. I have checked the value and tried other values close to it but still nothing. Has anyone ever got this to work? I used the BROWN / green wire.
Thanks,
Chris
I believe the resistor needed is 160 ohm, not 240 ------------- Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 14, 2007 at 7:24 PM
With just about 200 remote starters completed, this is the most difficult I have ever completed! Even at that, it doesn't work like everything should. I still can't get the door locks to work with the remote starter remote, when the parking lights come on with the remote starter all of the lights come on. This is the first VW I have done and what a pain in the A@$ it was to remove the dashboard! I didn't even attempt to remove the cover around the steering column...VW has two torx screws right behind the steering wheel that is almost impossible to get to. If I have a customer bring a 2007 VW Jetta I will refuse it! I decided to use the factory remote to start the car (I like the key and remote combo) but when you start the car, the factory remote won't work to unlock/lock the doors! So, if you remote start the car and the doors are locked, you cannot unlock them with the remote! What a mess this was.....I'll have to set aside a whole day to get it right because I don't like the way it is. Ok, I'm done blowing off steam but really.....what a pain. Has anyone else done a 2007 VW Jetta? If so, I'd like to know. Thanks, Chris
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 14, 2007 at 8:33 PM
Use a CANSL2 bypass module for the bypass and interface for doors, keyless, tach & trunk and this will make the whole job WAY easier. Took me about 4 hours to do this vehicle the first time and no real snags.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 15, 2007 at 4:17 AM
Yes, I will certainly get that module. Most of the time I elect not to use them because the cost is so high but I think this would be an exception. One question though, I am seeing conflicting information. Does the CAN-SL2 or SL2i work the parking lights? Thanks, Chris
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 15, 2007 at 6:25 PM
I tried the parking lights and they work with the exception that it turns on all of the lights (head lights). The CAN-SL2 says that you need a key for the remote starter to work. Is there a module that will lock/unlock the doors, working the parking lights, activate the trunk and bypass the immobilzer? If so, I would buy it right now! Anyone know of a module?
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 15, 2007 at 8:32 PM
The CANSL2 will do all of what you want except the parking lights. You need to isolate the left from the right side and use two relays triggered byt the (+) parking light output.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 16, 2007 at 4:56 AM
Thanks for the reply. I did that and they work but the problem is that it actually turns on the head lights. I cut the red and white wire then ran it to the BLACK/ white or WHITE/ black....can't remember which one. Have you done this successfully where it just turns on the parking lights? My car doesn't even have the option to turn on the parking lights....it's either nothing or everything. Maybe go into the channel beside the driver and find the parking light wire?
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 16, 2007 at 8:18 AM
I have just talked to Wayne at bypasskit.com and he said, "The doorlock interface for the Jetta will be a data solution, You will not
have to give up a key, this module will arm and disarm the factory alarm system, lock and unlock the doors, and have light confirmation." It looks like this is the module needed for a 2007 VW Jetta!
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 16, 2007 at 8:58 AM
The CANSL2 you do not need to give up a key, but you do need a single key to program the module. If you spoke to Wayne then you need the XK510 but this requires you to give up the valet key to the module and have it hidden under the dash.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 16, 2007 at 4:08 PM
I down loaded the installation manual for the CAN-SL2 and it doesn't say that it will bypass the transponder. I know you have stated that it does but can you confirm this? I'd rather go with the CAN-SL2 and worry about the parking light problem later on. Also, do you know if I use a DP style remote starter from Crimestopper......will I still have to wire each individual output? I have never used the DP port on the RS-1604 but if I am able to, this would be the one to do it. Thanks, Chris
Posted By: speed of sound
Date Posted: March 16, 2007 at 4:22 PM
you can use a CAN-SL2 made by fortin. It gives you locks, arm, disarm, tach, hood & more. very easy to use and very reliable  ------------- Speed of Sound Technologies
230 pershing Dr
Ansonia, CT 06401
203-954-0066
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 18, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Just incase more people will be doing a 2007 Jetta, some of the information provided is incorrect. Parking lights - No need for the special wiring. Just go to the drivers kick panel and supply +12V to the gray/black 22 gauge wire. I tried it the way the wiring sheet says and it will turn on the head lights and the parking lights. Door locks - Straight ground will lock the doors but using a 240 ohm resistor for the unlock will not work. I used the BROWN / green wire and used a 1K for the unlock pulse and everything works as it should. Now, can someone help me with this? When I remote start, as many cars do nowadays, my daytime running lights come on. I would like to permanently disable them. I know I can pull the hand brake at night and they will not turn on during the day but I don't like them period. Thanks, Chris
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 18, 2007 at 3:46 PM
Find the hand brake relay in the relay fuse panel and you will find the hand brake wire. All you need to do is trigger this relay pin with a (-) pulse during remote start and this will not allow the day time running lights to operate during remote start. If you want to disable the DRL relay, I beleive it's a dual relay high up above the driver's kick panel and it's a PINK colored relay bank. Remove this and this will eliminate the DRL all together, but not sure if this will affect other parts of the lighting system if removed.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 18, 2007 at 4:36 PM
Thanks for the reply. I need to make a correction to my correction. The gray/black wire I mentioned only does one side of the vehicle. Any reason for this? I will find the wire for the other side but I don't know why VW isolated both sides?
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 18, 2007 at 8:40 PM
One more question about the Jetta. While I was installing the remote starter, I created an airbag code and now the airbag light is on continuosly. I tried disconnecting the battery for a couple of hours but that didn't work. Is there any way to reset the airbag light without the use of a diagnostic tool? If so, how can I do this? If not, can someone suggest a cheap tool to accomplish this? Thanks, Chris
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 22, 2007 at 2:04 PM
It occurs to me that when using current DEI product with a VERY low lock/unlock power output relay BOTH sides then add the resistor, NB the load is 1Kr on VW Polos (Smaller Jetta/Golf in Europe) and transporters.
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 22, 2007 at 4:42 PM
I disagree. I tried going straight to chassis frame and I obtained the same results. If you have actually done a 2007 Jetta I would believe you but I did it myself and no other resistor except for 1K worked. In addition, this was a Crimestopper type remote starter. Using the 1K resistor works exactly the same as when I go straight to chassis frame or when using the remote starter. I didn't need to add relays to make this work. Crimestopper uses a darlington pair output which is about ~700mA and this is enough to accomplish the task.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 22, 2007 at 5:11 PM
Fair enough, the only reason I mentioned relays is that I've had issues with Clifford over lock output since the G5 range first appeared,also sensitivity to door contacts. The Polo and transporter both use a dreaded time control body management box that sends a feedback everytime it "wakes up" triggering the alarm, use diodes to block the signal back to processor also on trunk lead (thin BROWN / black). There is a Directed tech note on their website. I think Clifford product has been going downhil since they stopped US manufacture and transferred to 'lite-On in Taiwan.
Posted By: christopher418
Date Posted: March 22, 2007 at 6:05 PM
Good to know for people using that type of alarm/remote starter. If I wasn't so cheap, I'd buy one of the CAN interface products but I was able to do everything W2W.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 22, 2007 at 6:26 PM
2 points we've only got VW can so far, I have a newish laptop with only USB ports, I can't use the Cliffnet wizard, have you USB to wiz over there yet? On latest GM product I've actually been told by Clifford UK not to touch '06 on until they bring out their GM/Honda can! NB Am I suffering being paranoid but does VW/Audi have more airbag etc warning light problems than anyone else or do they design the software to do this thus sending the vehicle back to dealership?
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