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Topic: celica indicators

Posted By: eireal
Subject: celica indicators
Date Posted: July 11, 2007 at 4:48 AM

Hi Guys

Wondering if i could get some pointers

Installing a clifford arrow 5 in a 99 JDM import celica,probed the suspect wires which read 12v constant and - at flash,so attached the WHITE/ red light flash wire from the alarm to ground but im not getting flash on arm or disarm.

Anyone shed any light?

Thanks



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Posted By: spookiestylez
Date Posted: July 11, 2007 at 10:41 AM
did you attach both white wires to your parking light wire?


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Posted By: spookiestylez
Date Posted: July 11, 2007 at 10:46 AM
h1/h1/12 WHITE/ red light flash input

This wire is the input for the on-board dual light flash relay.
If the vehicle haspositive parking light activation wires,connect
this wire to a (+) 12V source that is fused at 15A or higher
(be sure to use the supplied fuse holder and a 15A fuse). If the
vechile parking light activation wire is negetive, connect this wire
to a chassis ground location


h1/13 and h1/14 white parking light output

These wires are the output of an on-board dual make relay and should
be connected to the wires in the vehicle that control the parking light
wire polarity. The dual outputs are designed for european vehicles with
isolated parking light systems. If the vehicle's parking lights are
controlled by a single wire,connect both WHITE wires to it.

IMPORTANT! The polarity of this wire is determined by the
connection of the h1/12 light flash input wire.
Always confirm light flash polarity before
connecting h1/12 or damage to the vehicle
lighting system could occur.


that is word for word out of the install manual.
hope it helps ya out!

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Posted By: eireal
Date Posted: July 11, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Thanks spookiestylez,i have the install manual but still no joy.

Just to go over it,i grounded h12 and attached h13/h14 to each of the wires (gr/yl,gr/bl) but im not getting any flash




Posted By: eireal
Date Posted: July 12, 2007 at 10:41 AM
Tried a different alarm brain just to be certain it wasnt the alarm and still have the same problem

Anyone else have any ideas?




Posted By: peterubers
Date Posted: July 12, 2007 at 4:49 PM

if you're tagging the (-) parking light wire at the steering column harness, you should be able to tap it to ground to get the parking lights to go on.  If you do NOT see the parking lights going on when you tap this wire to ground, you have the wrong wire OR you're using a poor ground.

Worse case scenario, you can connect the h12 to 12 volts fused (15 amps) and then connect the h13/14 wires to the back of the parking lights (in the engine bay).  You'd connect one to the left parking light, and the other to the right parking light.  this would of course require more work, i.e. drilling through the firewall, use of a rubber grommet, use of wire looming to heat/grease shield the wiring going to the parking lights, and tapping into the parking light 12 volts positive wires behind TWO parking lights in the engine bay.

You SHOULD however be able to re-confirm the parking light negative wires at the steering column harness (there is only ONE wire in the US model '99 Celica and it's light green (-)). I'm not sure of the JDM Celica, however.  You'll have to re-test all the steering column harness wires.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 13, 2007 at 2:41 PM
Stop it you're all running around in circles, is 99 latest shape, if so, green /black and green / yellow in loom in cenre console, if earlier shape go for loom coming from steering column, wire white red to pos source. UK specs  on latest shape have a white "alarm connection" plug underneath heater controls with everything needed on it.




Posted By: eireal
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 6:32 AM
howie ll wrote:

Stop it you're all running around in circles, is 99 latest shape, if so, green /black and green / yellow in loom in cenre console, if earlier shape go for loom coming from steering column, wire white red to pos source. UK specs on latest shape have a white "alarm connection" plug underneath heater controls with everything needed on it.


Its new shape jap import howie and there the wires ive tagged too

Ive tried changing the whi/red ground location and still no joy




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Let us think:- Jap-Uk only differences, speedo klics against MPH,  rear fog  on UK and joke FM 76-91Mhz. on Jap. If you remove radio and heater controls from centre console, you have a fuse and body control box. Sit in the passenger seat and look to the right over fuse box. It should have a white plug with everything on it, locks indicators, door and trunk contact power ign etc. If not the leads you want will be in the main loom running  back  past fuse box towards parking break and lock button. Everything bar ign cuts, starter cuts and siren feeds should be accessed from there.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 16, 2007 at 1:11 PM
Second thought, WHITE/ red must come from a PERMANENT 12v+ source, I justb realised you said you were grounding it! NO NO NO These indicator wires are POSITIVE!




Posted By: eireal
Date Posted: July 19, 2007 at 11:05 AM
Theres no white plug near the fuse box,altho i got most connections in the loom centre section heading back to the p/brake.

At rest IE non flashing,the indicator wires read 12v,but on flash they go to ground,hence why i grounded the WHITE/ red.

Are you positive the WHITE/ red should go to 12v?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 19, 2007 at 4:15 PM
This may be similar to the hiace van, look at plug behind hazard flasher switch. If it has a GREEN / WHITE at pin 10, ground this through a test light, if it does the trick, ground WHITE/ red, join the whites, then to this wire,this will do the trick. 




Posted By: eireal
Date Posted: July 20, 2007 at 5:58 AM
Cheers howie ill give it a try thanks for your help





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