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2004 crv with viper 791xv

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 28, 2024 at 9:09 PM


Topic: 2004 crv with viper 791xv

Posted By: kemetuimay
Subject: 2004 crv with viper 791xv
Date Posted: August 25, 2007 at 4:37 AM

I just finish installing the viper 791xv starter on my 2004 crv but i have left out alot of wire because i don't know where they go

like the channels and locks because it ask for a relay so im not sure if i can connect it without a relay or diode

but i try to start it the car crank but it won't start i don't know what i did wrong can someone give me a better wiring instruction or tips on how to get the starter to work

im having trouble understanding some of the wire that are describe in the instruction booklet

i wanted to know what is the most needed wire to install and which wire i can skip or not use




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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: August 25, 2007 at 8:20 AM
How about you tell us what wires you have connected?

Did you use a bypass module for the transponder key? If so, which one?

You don't need diodes or relays for the locks.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 25, 2007 at 8:26 AM

This is hard....describing each wire you have connected, or for that matter the one's you didn't connect.

Where did you get your tech info?   Jworm has a great question, as well as some good info.



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Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: August 25, 2007 at 12:58 PM

im sorry it was late yesterday so i type the message short

i wiring information that i use are the one that come from here and one come from the bulldog security website i also bought a bypass 555i to install it in

all the one that i bold are all the wire that i finish but the rest of it i can't find it or i didn't wire because it ask for a relay or diode

12volts white (50A)   +   ignition harness
Starter BLACK/ white   +   ignition harness

Second Starter N/A       
Ignition BLACK / YELLOW   +   ignition harness
Second Ignition N/A       
Third Ignition N/A       
Accessory BLACK/ red   +   ignition harness
Second Accessory WHITE/ red   +   ignition harness
Keysense RED / white   -   ign harn or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Power Lock WHITE/ blue   -   driver kick, door harness
Power Unlock WHITE/ green   -   driver kick, door harness
Lock Motor yellow/black   5wi DKP or back of fuse box, top left
Unlock Motor YELLOW /GREEN   5wi DKP or back of fuse box, top left
Parking Lights+ RED / black   +   back of fuse box, top middle
Notes: Can also use RED / yellow (+) at the front of the fuse box, 18 pin plug, pin 15.
Parking Lights- blue   -   switch or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Hazards same as turn signal wires       
Turn Signal(L) GREEN/ red   +   steering column
Turn Signal(R) GREEN/ YELLOW   +   steering column
Reverse Light GREEN/ black   +   frt of fuse box, 18 pin plug, pin 1
Door Trigger grn (driver) and lt. grn/red   -   frt of fusebox or factory alarm plug
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.

The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Dome Supervision GREEN/ red   -   back of fuse box, top right
Trunk/Hatch Pin red and GREEN / WHITE (glass)   -   frt of fusebox or factory alarm plug
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.

The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Hood Pin yellow/red   -   pin switch or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Trunk/Hatch Release BLACK / YELLOW   -   driver kick, door harness
Power Sliding Door N/A       
Factory Alarm Arm factory remote only       
Factory Alarm Disarm factory remote only       
Disarm No Unlock factory remote only       
Tachometer blue   ac   test tachometer connector __________this one they say its behind the battery but i can't find this plug or wire??
Notes: The test tachometer connector is a two pin connector behind the battery.
Wait to start N/A       
Brake Wire WHITE/ black   +   brake pedal switch
Parking Brake GREEN/ orange   -   Immobilizer Control Unit, pin 4
Notes: The Immobilizer Control Unit is on the ignition key cylinder.
Horn Trigger orange   -   column or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Memory Seat 1 N/A       
Memory Seat 2 N/A       
Memory Seat 3 N/A       
Immobilizer Bypass Module: Required: Yes Type: Transponder Part #: 555i, 556U, or 555U
Notes: N/A





Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: August 28, 2007 at 2:01 AM

can somebody help me with this problem

i need help with knowing which wire is require to be wire up and what other equipment is need inorder to get my car running like the 451m i don't know if my car need it or even know how to install it

also i can't find the blue tech wire it say that it is behind the battery but i don't see no plug behind the battery or a blue wire





Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: August 28, 2007 at 9:20 AM
Get rid of the 451m. It is not needed for your car. The doorlock harness will have a blue wire, and a green wire. Connect the blue wire to the unlock wire listed above, and the green wire listed above. If you don't have the 3-pin doorlock harness with just the green and blue wires, you can just cut that part of it off the 451m.

If I remember correctly, that is one of the Honda's that I could never find the tach test connector under the hood.
I always got the tach wire at the inside fuse box on those. Look around for a solid blue wire next to an orange wire. Take your meter and put it on AC voltage. Ground the black lead, and put the red lead on the blue wire at the fuse box. With the car off it will read around 0v. Start the car and it should go to around 6v.




Posted By: rtperformance
Date Posted: August 28, 2007 at 1:13 PM
You will also want to take the second Ing to your second ACC in the car and then program it as the second ACC this will insure all Ing and Acc are being triggerd the way they would if you start with the key. You may also for testing want to try Remote Strat with the key not the bypass to see if all is good on the remote side. if that works reconnect your bypass... Try agin.




Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: August 28, 2007 at 8:04 PM

oh thanks you guys for helping me

but i also want to ask about the locks, which one am i suppose to wire up the

Power Lock WHITE/ blue   -   driver kick, door harness
Power Unlock WHITE/ green   -   driver kick, door harness
Lock Motor yellow/black   5wi DKP or back of fuse box, top left
Unlock Motor YELLOW /GREEN   5wi DKP or back of fuse box, top left

this part is confusing me and also i want to ask that is it require to hook up the hood pin wire because i want the engine to start when i open the hood so can i not wire this wire up 





Posted By: rtperformance
Date Posted: August 28, 2007 at 9:03 PM
use the lock wires not the motor wires for lock and unlock. no relay need they should work straight from the unit. As far as the hoop pin it is not needed if you dont want to use it but there is a black with a white striped wire in the same harness as the hood pin. wire this wire to ground thruogh a switch so you can still disable the starter. With DEI if you disconect the Batt. then reconect it the system will try to start this can freak out anyone working on the car.




Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: August 30, 2007 at 5:20 PM

are the doors trigger and the door locks are different right

and can somebody give me like a list of wire that are not require to install so i won't left it out

because im really just looking into install the starter for right now, im not that need of the keyless entry ill just use the OEM locking

but also i just want to make sure that i wire up the 555i corectly is it right that i follow the wire colors exactly that are in the instruction that came with the 555i





Posted By: smily95
Date Posted: August 30, 2007 at 5:31 PM
12volts white (50A)  +  ignition harness
Starter BLACK/ white  +  ignition harness
Second Starter N/A    
Ignition BLACK / YELLOW  +  ignition harness
Second Ignition N/A    
Third Ignition N/A    
Accessory BLACK/ red  +  ignition harness
Second Accessory WHITE/ red  +  ignition harness
Keysense RED / white  -  ign harn or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Power Lock WHITE/ blue  -  driver kick, door harness
Power Unlock WHITE/ green  -  driver kick, door harness
Lock Motor yellow/black  5wi DKP or back of fuse box, top left
Unlock Motor YELLOW /GREEN  5wi DKP or back of fuse box, top left
Parking Lights+ RED / black  +  back of fuse box, top middle
Notes: Can also use RED / yellow (+) at the front of the fuse box, 18 pin plug, pin 15.
Parking Lights- blue  -  switch or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Hazards same as turn signal wires    
Turn Signal(L) GREEN/ red  +  turn signal switch
Turn Signal(R) GREEN/ YELLOW  +  turn signal switch
Reverse Light GREEN/ black  +  frt of fuse box, 18 pin plug, pin 1
Door Trigger grn (driver) and lt. grn/red  -  frt of fusebox or factory alarm plug
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.

The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Dome Supervision GREEN/ red  -  back of fuse box, top right
Trunk/Hatch Pin red and GREEN / WHITE (glass)  -  frt of fusebox or factory alarm plug
Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.

The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Hood Pin yellow/red  -  pin switch or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Trunk/Hatch Release BLACK / YELLOW  -  driver kick, door harness
Power Sliding Door N/A    
Factory Alarm Arm factory remote only    
Factory Alarm Disarm factory remote only    
Disarm No Unlock factory remote only    
Tachometer blue  ac  test tachometer connector
Notes: The test tachometer connector is a two pin connector behind the battery.
Wait to start N/A    
Brake Wire WHITE/ black  +  brake pedal switch
Parking Brake GREEN/ orange  -  Immobilizer Control Unit, pin 4
Notes: The Immobilizer Control Unit is on the ignition key cylinder.
Horn Trigger orange  -  switch or factory alarm plug
Notes: The factory alarm plug is a green plug to the left of the steering column.
Memory Seat 1 N/A    
Memory Seat 2 N/A    
Memory Seat 3 N/A    




Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: September 01, 2007 at 9:43 PM

i meant which wires i do not need to wire up and im still confuse that why does the manual book say that inorder to wire up it need a relay and home come you guys say i don't need no relay





Posted By: enice
Date Posted: September 01, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Well thats because you dont need a relay.  It mentions it but trust me you dont need it IN THIS CASE.  Green wire is lock and blue unlock(I always get them mixed up)  and just tap them according to the diagram.  This will do it.  If you dont trust the answer then I dont know what to tell yah...ummm dont post then??




Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: September 02, 2007 at 1:39 AM

oh i just want to make sure so i don't mess up the car so badly but i trust all of you

i also want to ask that what are the channels wire do, but they don't have to be wire up right

are those wire like extra wire that can be wire up to anything, what can i use most of it on





Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 02, 2007 at 8:57 AM

kemetuimay...... In the future (should you decide to actually try this again) DON"T worry about what NOT to connect. posted_image

Take your car apart, look at your tech note's, identify your wires.....and make the connection.posted_image

Most of the output's, and input's on the remote start's are low amperage... hard to cause a problem (possible though).

If you don't have, or want to trigger other devices.... you won't need the "extra channels" don't worry about em.



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Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: September 13, 2007 at 11:21 PM

last week i had tried to remove the bypass and try the remote starter again and my car still won't start it still crank and shut off for 3 times

because the winter is coming up i just want the starter to work so my mom can drive it to work i don't really need the other stuff so can you tell me what are the wires that i need to wire up so the remote start will start up the car

from the earlier reply by rtperformance he say that i should wire the sencond ign wire to the sencond ACC then program it, i want to ask how do you program this

i also want to ask that the tach wire does it really needed for the newer car like my car because i thought it was only for old car

just wondering i was looking at the 555i module there is a LED light does it suppose to light up because it doesn't light up when i was looking at it





Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 14, 2007 at 8:55 AM

well both accs. are not needed, and there is only 1 ign.  reading your most recent post, you might be confused on the accs. and ign connections.

BUT the tach is needed, this is what tells the remote starter to STOP cranking!



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Posted By: rtperformance
Date Posted: September 15, 2007 at 11:55 PM

Ok you may not need the 2nd ACC but it is a good idea to mimic the factory. you only need.

Red Power (*4)

Pink Ing

Orange ACC

Green Key side starter wire

Purple Starter side

Black Ground

Blacl white Nutral safety (-) input

you also will need to ground the green door triger wire for programing, programing is donre with the valet switch and LED or through a Bitwriter.





Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: September 16, 2007 at 7:28 PM

i had all those wires, wired up already except for the Grean wire and the BLACK/ white because i thought the green wire in the book they say wire it up to a starter kill so i didn't wire that wire up

can you tell me where am i suppose to wire that green wire to and also do i just click the start button when i finish the wiring or do i have to program it before i start it





Posted By: init
Date Posted: September 16, 2007 at 7:35 PM

If I remember correctly you cut the vehicle's starter wire.  You attach the green wire from the remote start to the key side, and the purple wire is connected to the car side.  Read your installation manual again first in case I screwed this up.

That green wire provides the starter kill and anti-grind functions.





Posted By: init
Date Posted: September 16, 2007 at 7:40 PM
After looking in the book, that is the right colors.  Green to key side, purple to starter side.

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I'm not a professional installer. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express.




Posted By: kemetuimay
Date Posted: September 16, 2007 at 10:16 PM
oh before i just wire the purple wire right to the starter wire i didn't know i have to cut the starter wire and wire one to each side, thank for your help thats properly the reason why it won't start i will give this a try next week




Posted By: init
Date Posted: September 16, 2007 at 11:38 PM

The green wire shouldn't prevent the car from remote starting, it only provides the starter kill and anti-grind functions.  I suggest connecting it, but it won't fix a problem with the remote start not working.



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I'm not a professional installer. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express.





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