2005 opel tigra twin top
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Printed Date: May 01, 2024 at 5:14 PM
Topic: 2005 opel tigra twin top
Posted By: peterjeff
Subject: 2005 opel tigra twin top
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 2:09 AM
Hello everyone! i'm looking for a diagram for my car to install viper 5906v with remote starter. can anyone help?
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 2:23 AM
Look to Xpresskit for the DB-ALL 2 CAN module enter the vehicle as an Opel Corsa.
If I'm right don't even think about hard wiring.
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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 2:48 AM
ok about that! about the rest of the alarm? do you have any idea? i mean the location and the colour of the wires... i'm gonna connect remote start in a second phase...
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 3:31 AM
Forget what I said, hardwire, exactly as Corsa same year.
You'll need a spare key and a 556U for the remote start.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 4:48 AM
OK, this is from memory (right hand drive).
Look for a main loom going into engine bay.
Left indicator BLACK/ white, right BLACK/ green move the fuse in the 5906 brain to POS position, split the white wire via 2 X 1N5404 diodes band away from 5906 to above wires.
Door (s) trigger, grey.
Lock RED / blue, unlock, WHITE/ black (maybe other way round)
Tach, light green (alternative, plug to gauges).
Power supply thick red or black.
Ignition and start, thick black and RED / black or BLACK/ red second ignition, black probably easier to get at at ignition switch.
Boot/trunk trigger BROWN / white at trunk light or floor loom, hand brake BROWN / white, foot brake WHITE/ black (?).
Test ALL of the above wires there are multiples of the same coloured wires with different functions.
By pass, use a 556U from Viper.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 4:54 AM
If there's a hood switch, there are two wires, BROWN / green and brown.
Cut the GREEN/ brown, join your grey hood wire to the switch side then diode from the join, 1N4004, band towards join, join cut GREEN/ brown to other end of diode.
Note:- In manual transmission reservation mode, arming vehicle during engine run may lock but not close the windows. If so wire an aux, (programmed as timed) to the lock wire and disable the comfort close.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 10:27 AM
first of all i want to thank you all for your answers!this is a very noob-friendly forum! :) howie are you sure about the wire colours? for lock and unlock i connected a brown-red and a brown-white wire coming of the drivers door... i have a left drive car. there is not a hood switch but the alarm has one to install.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 11:06 AM
The UK had a factory alarm with a hood switch, otherwise install your own.
BROWN / red and BROWN / white lock and unlock are alternatives, won't give you deadlock or window close.
Program double lock pulse for deadlock, it is 10 years since I worked on one!
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 11:27 AM
ok lets say that i program double pulse, will it close the window also? as i get it it wont! am i right?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 12:15 PM
Only if you use the blue/red and WHITE/ black, in the thick loom going to engine bay.
Should also be in driver's door loom.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 01, 2015 at 1:07 PM
ok! thank you very much! i'll keep working tomorrow cause now its night. i'll keep you posted! :)
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 2:27 PM
tried a little bit this evening but with no luck! i connected power supple the siren door locks and antenna! but the alarm didnt do anything! just like it didnt have any power.... i'm worried...
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 2:37 PM
Test voltage between fuses and ground (mass) should read 12.3V+ also with ignition on, between pink on H3 and ground, should be about the same.
Did you try both remotes?
Try pairing one of them.You need ignition and green on H2 to grey door trigger wire.
Now you see why I charge £120 (c. 160 Euros) to install them.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 2:48 PM
hehe! howie you are absoluterly right! they crap! :P i didnt get that tach wire you said. and ignition? is it a must for the alarm to work? i mean i was trying to see if it works. didnt try both remotes but the blue led didnt turn on once! :S i'll test voltage tomorrow with my uncle who is an electrician and knows a few more things than me!
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 2:49 PM
i also took a picture from my ignition cables. you want to see them?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 3:00 PM
OK but you MUST connect ignition for many reasons.
From your answers I suggest you take this to a professional this appears to be beyond you.
The trouble is in Europe there aren't any between England and Romania.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 3:26 PM
yeah i think i will do that. but i wanna fight it a little more :P
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Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 3:27 PM
https://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc76/Peterjeff/IMG_4904.jpg
sorry my mistake! this is the right one
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 02, 2015 at 7:01 PM
From the right, starter, source 2nd. red not sure about, test black on the left is ignition.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 6:37 AM
well, all good today! powered the alarm, connected flashing lights and locks. but locks couldnt find the wires you said so i used the ones a had from the beggining. works ok! no dead lock but ok. but i had a problem with the door input. alarm has two. a + and a -. which one a connect? a found the car cable but couldn't do it. also couldnt connect ignition. i couldn't understand which alarm wire goes to ignition on. it has two. i think i'll go to a professional for the rest.... thank you howie!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 7:05 AM
Green neg to a grey wire, either going up to dome (courtesy/interior) light, grey wire.
You MUST have an ignition connection. Can't be programmed without. Black wire at ignition switch or loom I mentioned originally.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:14 AM
ok lets say i'm a coomplete idiot! which alarm wire i connect to the black ignition switch? https://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc76/Peterjeff/IMG_4906.jpg
i also found 3 grey wires in the car! how do i test them?
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:17 AM
about the violet no18 wire? do i connect it? i suppose not cause i have neg locks... right?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:26 AM
No don't connect and the lock polarity trigger has nothing to do with door trigger polarity. Don't EVER make assumptions.
As for the grey and testing????
Are you for real? Use a DMM.
Red probe to 12V+ constant, black to suspect wire, reads when door is opened.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:33 AM
i really cant understand! :( you mean red no5 from 10pin connector to the black ignition wire? i thought 10pin connector was only for remote start installation. 24pin connector has also 2 ignition wires.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:35 AM
That's it you aren't even reading the instructions.
Pink on 10 wire plug to black ignition wire.
Please stop what you're doing and seek professional help.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:39 AM
that's i'm going to do. going to a professional... but howie there are not any other instructions! just the ones i send you...
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:44 AM
What I meant was you have the referral sheet with the unit. Those two other wires are low current NEG, used with relays for vehicles with multiple starter/ignition ACC wires.
The instructions are scant because these units are made to be installed by professionals who know the difference between say a door trigger and a door lock trigger or why you need ignition input/output.
I can't answer you when you can't even find the right lock control wires in that loom.
They should also be in the loom exiting the driver's door.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: peterjeff
Date Posted: May 03, 2015 at 11:52 AM
howie there arent! or i'm blind! i was looking in the loom exiting drivers door and couldnt find these colours. anyway i really really thank you very much for your help! i'll be out of town for 2 days so i'm going to proff. thanks again for all you help!
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