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Topic: Alarm wiring diagram 2003 Jetta

Posted By: BMLIME
Subject: Alarm wiring diagram 2003 Jetta
Date Posted: January 12, 2003 at 5:03 PM

I need to know the wiring diagram for a 2003 VW Jetta.I have a few problems with the lock and unlock,I think it goes into sleep mode after you arm it for more then ten seconds any suggestions. Also the horn beeps.If any one knows anything about these german cars let me know it would be helpful

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BMLIME



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Posted By: rte3tdi
Date Posted: January 13, 2003 at 6:29 PM

All VWs sold in the US come with standard keyless entry and factory anti-theft system.  I have a 2002 Jetta and, as far as I know, it is the same as the 2003.

When you press the "lock" button in your remote (or when you turn the key on the door) the parking lights will blink once and the buzzer (it is a high-pitched "beep" sound, louder inside the car) will make a brief noise once.  When you press the "unlock" button on your remote (or when you turn the key on the door) the lights will flash a few times, disarming the system.  The regular car horn should never beep (that is a lower tone outside the car).

Also, if you unlock the car but you do not open any doors, the car will lock again after 30 sec or so, the lights will flash once, and the buzzer will beep once, as if you had pressed the lock button again.

Now ... your post was not specific as to whether you are having problems with the factory system or with an aftermarket alarm system.  Since your car is less than a year old, if you have any doubts, you may want to contact your dealer about the malfunction.  If it is an aftermarket system, installed by a professional, you may want to see them and explain the problem.  If you installed it yourself, we will need more details about what is happening.





Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 13, 2003 at 6:36 PM
 I have a problem with the aftermarket system. I now believe the installer blew up my drivers door module because my drivers door lock will not lock with the factory remote or the button inside. My problem is and I don't know if it is related to the module but my system goes into sleep mode after about 10 sec.You can't open the doors with the aftermarket viper alarm.You first have to use the factory remote to wake up the system then use the Viper remote..Please let me know your suggestions..

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BMLIME




Posted By: rte3tdi
Date Posted: January 13, 2003 at 6:41 PM
When you start driving, do the doors lock after you reach 8mph?




Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 13, 2003 at 6:44 PM
Yes except the drivers door

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BMLIME




Posted By: rte3tdi
Date Posted: January 13, 2003 at 7:36 PM

Then I would go up to the aftermarket alarm installer and point out he/she interfered with the operation of the driver's door lock module.  If you go back to the dealer, they will probably not honor your warranty, since the vehicle has been modified.

I am also confused about the statement "goes into sleep mode".  If the Viper alarm is in "sleep" mode, is it still protecting the car?  If it is not, then it is really not doing anything other than annoying your life ...

The operation you described doesn't sound right.  You shouldn't have to use two remotes in that sequence.  It sounds like this was a hack job.  By the way, may I ask what is there to gain by adding a second alarm?  The factory one will prevent the vehicle from being started.  Are you looking for additional triggers (glass sensors, motion sensors, etc)?  Are you looking for a louder buzzer (since the factory one is loud inside, but moderate outside)? You already have anti-theft, keyless entry, and an alarm from the factory ...





Posted By: themagicone
Date Posted: January 13, 2003 at 7:57 PM

rte, factory alarms are great in being allready in the car. The problem lies in range, factory keyless works at most up to 30feet. A new viper, 1000ft+





Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 13, 2003 at 8:30 PM

I was interested in the remote start basically they just keep giving me a new one when I switch vehicles for free so why buy something else.In the alarm system again.The viper doesn't go into sleep mode it is the factory system they goes to sleep mode when you try to open the doors.The viper remote will not work at all just the factory one.The viper alarm disarms including the factory one but the doors remain locked.Do you think a blown driver module would cause the viper keyless entry not to work properly??And cause it not to open the doors.The installer which are reputable in my area had nothing really to go by there is no exact wire diagram for a 2003 if you can find one for me e-mail it to me.   So what do now is when i remote start you have to manually unlock the car with a key it doesn't unlock with the viper remote.If you arm the car the doors lock except the drivers door After ten seconds you can disarm the alarm but the doors remain locked understand If you have any idea or if you think the module is screwing this up  let me know?



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BMLIME




Posted By: rte3tdi
Date Posted: January 14, 2003 at 5:30 AM
First, I did not realize this was a remote starter. I thought it was just an alarm and I missed the motivation.
In this case, since you have to disable the factory alarm by using its remote, you have not gained any
range (you still need to go within 30 ft to "wake up" the Viper). What you do have is the remote start,
which is nice.

Second, yes, I do have the factory manual for the car (published by Robert Bentley, Inc.) and it is thicker than
the yellow pages phone book. The wiring schematics take at least 200 pages. There is no "1 page summary"
that I would copy/fax to you that is similar to what you find on some of these forums. I am not sure if any of the
online wiring diagram services have the wiring for these cars in tabular form.

My guess is that the installer wanted to send a signal to the factory alarm saying "disarm", so that the Viper
could start the car. Unfortunately, such a signal also unlocks the doors. What he probably did was disconnect
the driver's door power door lock motor and make the Viper sleep while the factory alarm is set. In order
to start the car, you need to disable the factory alarm, since it is part of the engine ECU (In 2002, there were
three different ECU systems: one for the Diesels, one for the 2.0, and one for the 1.8T/2.8VR6, I am assuming
2003 are not any different). The problem he/she probably faced was that in order to disable the factory
alarm, a signal has to go to the ECU saying "unlock doors". The first pulse unlocks the driver's door, the
second one the rest of the doors. This is probably why he/she disabled the motor, so that when you unlock
the car using the factory alarm, you don't end up unlocking the driver's door.

Next question, when you unlock the doors using the Viper remote, does the driver's door unlock? A potential
solution is to use a relay so that the driver's power door lock motor only works when the Viper is trying to
unlock the car. That way, when the factory alarm is disabled, you will not unlock the doors, but when the
Viper tries to unlock the car, it can. This may be a practical compromise, given the factory configuration.
IF this is indeed how it is wired, there is one more thing that can be done: change the logic in the relay so
that the power door lock module is ALWAYS available to the factory ECU (that way you can do the lock/
unlock features as they were intended from the factory) and have the relay DISABLE the power door
lock motor when the Viper sends a signal to the ECU to disable the factory alarm.





Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 14, 2003 at 9:35 PM

I have an update.Here it goes. I start my car with the 550 esp viper I go to unlock my doors using the viper remote they all open.OK. Next I don't remote start my vehicle,it is not running I go to open my doors with the viper remote.They don't open.But the alarm disarms.OK. My doors always lock with the viper keypad remote.The only problem I encounter is that when you try to open the doors when the car is not running they don't open at all with the viper remote.It is like my factory alarms door lock are asleep to save energy and the viper doesn't understand.The only way you can open the doors with the viper is to wake up the system with the factory remote by hitting lock the using the viper remote the will unlock. Somehow I think a pulse needs to be sent to wake up the system..

Let me know if this makes any sense I think this is a new problem with the 2003 models.By the way I have a 1.8T Tiptronic and the color of the wires from the module are yellow blue stripe and yellow green stripe..The module is being looked at by volkswagen service tommorrow .



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BMLIME




Posted By: rte3tdi
Date Posted: January 15, 2003 at 5:45 AM
Well ... let's see what VW has to say. I think they are going to blame the Viper installation...
Hopefully, they will find the problem for you.
Let me know what happens.

By the way ... that is an awesome transaxle. I have the 5 speed manual with a Diesel engine, since I drive 62 miles back/forth to work every day.




Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 15, 2003 at 2:59 PM
 It is the electronics in the door trigger I guess.That is what they told me today. But i'm still going to have the problem with the factory door locks sleeping on me let me know if you get any info on 2003's

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BMLIME




Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 25, 2003 at 12:28 PM
 How do you wire that relay. Thats the problem I got it back from VW.You arm the car with viper and 5 sec after you can disarm the viper but the factory stays armed. I need to know how do disable the factory alarm so that my doors open with the viper remote. Any helpful hints would be appreciated..

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BMLIME




Posted By: mike swanson
Date Posted: January 28, 2003 at 9:53 PM

if the factory keyless goes to sleep it needs a relay ta wake it up i dont know how but i seen it done. ask ur installer if thats not it the viper should have a factory disarm wire output ta shut  off the factory alarm/keyless





Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 1:40 PM

If any one else can throw some feedback it would be great..Also if you fing out how to wire that relay with exact wire colors and were it would be helpful..



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BMLIME




Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 2:07 PM

I think your problem is simpler then you think.  The car requires two pulses on the unlock wire to unlock the doors.  The first one disarms and the second unlocks the doors.  I only skimmed through this quickly so if I missed anything I appologise. 





Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 4:19 PM
 Doesn't work.Everything works fine before five seconds after arming.After five seconds the factory alarm doesn't disarm and doors don't unlock

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BMLIME




Posted By: BMLIME
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 3:02 PM
I finally figured out the problem.The Viper 550 ESP's pulse is not strong enough to activate the door locks. It needs more then a 200ma. So it needs the use of relays

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BMLIME




Posted By: mpalarm
Date Posted: February 03, 2003 at 2:30 PM

Dear Bmline,

Your problem have more simple decision, from this, which these people here recommends you. Your best way to control the original alarm in the vehicle is to connect the wires from your Viper alarm into the drivers door to the wires coming from the keylock. This is the only way to remote the factory alarm, because inside the door the signals are coded in only one wire. That`s the problem. Don`t try to connect your alarm to the drivers door motor for central locking, use the wires inside the door before they goes into the fabric module for the window motor and central locking module. All this reccomends of other guys like rti3tdi are bull sh*ts (i`m sorry for my strong words), but they havent good experience in this european vehicles, how i can see from their answers.

Good luck !

mpalarm



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MPAlarm




Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: February 16, 2003 at 9:46 AM
You should have just had an upgrade remote start installed - you use your factory remotes. There is the Prestige AS9075 or a DEI piece. This way you could hide the fact you had a remote start put in if you ever needed to warranty the car at the dealer. And the remotes would work the same as they always did.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 16, 2003 at 10:17 AM
Have you tried to send a pulse to the door trigger prior to unlock or using the unlock signal and split the signal going to the unlock for the doors and one to the door trigger ? This is just a guess, but the system sounds like the GM RAP & the Ford's GEM units. They need to be woken up in order to operate & most times all you need to do is pulse the door trigger for it to work properly.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA





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