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oldspark 
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Posted: May 15, 2010 at 1:51 AM / IP Logged  
If you don't understand what I am saying, just parallel them.
As jmelton wrote in batteries, how many, what kind?....
jmelton86 wrote:
Not only is it done all of the time, with mismatched batteries alot of the time....
On mp3car.com, Optima's eCare Manager (OptimaJim) said that Optima batteries can be paralleled. Based on that, why can't others? (Though matching etc was involved.)
There are heaps of other web writing that say the same.
I know many that hard-parallel batteries too.
Don't worry about trivial details like mismatching, temperature, and connection methods - that stuff comes from knowledgeable people that try to increase the life of the batteries.
The reality seems to be that people that parallel batteries using any technique do not complain.
Just go with that latter reality.
Mad Scientists 
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 To Isolate, or not to isolate..

 It all depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Full sized diesel pickups can come with dual batteries, wired in parallel. This is because one battery doesn't have the cranking amps to start the engine.. some of these engines spec cranking amps as 'not more than 500 amps'. In this situation, both batteries are matched and located in the engine compartment. They are subjected to as equal as possible operating conditions. Heavy equipment can also run dual battery systems; but I've seen those in both parallel config, as well as series config. Only in very rare situations would you _not_ run a matched set of batteries.

 On the other hand, in a situation where you'd have a cranking battery and a 'house' battery, like a motorhome or camper, matching is not necessary as long as the batteries are not parallelled together unless for charging. In the audio, trunk mounted second battery situation, I'd just get a good battery isolator and call it good. With all the computer controlled alternators out there now, the easiest way to isolate is just use a decent battery isolator.

 Just my 0.02

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oldspark 
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I think I am in love with Mad Scientists... forget whatever i said about not following scientific methods. (Though that was a generalisation that referred to mainstream scientists.)
Mad Scientists has/have stated so succinctly what I have been trying to say.
And for newer ECU controlled alternators - sure, get an isolator.   
For those with charge lights, use its superiority - use a relay.
knotdrummer88 
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so say if i had an optima yellow top for example under the hood and had it in series a kinetik 2400 and that in series to another kinetik 2400, would that be fine?
oldspark 
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Explain what you mean by series.
A 12V battery in series with another 12V battery means 24V.
24V tends to be detrimental to 12V loads.
3 x 12V batteries in series = 36V. That tends to be even more detrimental - not that it has much extra impact. (How your 12V loads blow on 24V compared to 36V is somewhat academic, even though the "power of destruction" is over twice that at 24V.)
For 12V loads, you can only parallel 12V batteries.
knotdrummer88 
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so with my example would i parallel them or use possibly a combination of series and parallel?
oldspark 
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Do you mean connect two 12V batteries in series?
And what loads do you have that are 24V?
knotdrummer88 
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good point. i guess none!
oldspark 
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Cool.
Then DON'T series connect any 12V batteries.
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