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kreg357 
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Posted: June 04, 2011 at 8:57 AM / IP Logged  

If I understand correctly, you mentioned that the car has power door locks.  Are they factory or aftermarket?  Is there a

lock/unlock switch in the door or on the console?  Do you have a factory FOB that controls the locks?  Aftermarket door
locks will have wires added to the cars' door harness and a small control module ( under the dash? ) that connects / controls
both doors.

If the car has factory power door locks, here is info from DEI :

 Function            Wire Color         Polarity    Location 
Power Lock       blue/brown or orange     (-)      driver kick panel   
Power Unlock     orange or blue/orange    (-)      driver kick panel

If you locate these wires in the drivers kick panel, verify them with a DMM.  Set to 20V DC, Red lead to +12v constant

and Black lead to suspect wire.  Actuate the locks, the DMM should briefly go to +12v.  If it is indeed factory locks,
you should be able to directly connect the Vipers Blue and Green wires to the correct vehicle wires.

If you have aftermarket door locks you will probably have to open up the drivers door panel and start tracing from there.

The actuator on the drivers side should have 5 wires.  These wires should go to a control unit.  The control unit might
have unused lock and unlock control wires just for this purpose.  If you find an aftermarket control unit, get the make
& model number and try to find an install guide for more more detailed info.

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howie ll 
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Posted: June 04, 2011 at 10:28 AM / IP Logged  
Kreg, we've already been over this which is why my last post was a bit short, OEM with an actuator required in the driver's door + a 451.
I have pictures of this from a UK spec car, there's a special way to mount the motor, it won't work in any other position. I'll email you with the photos, perhaps you can resize them for me and post them to show our friend.
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Posted: June 04, 2011 at 11:46 AM / IP Logged  

Special thanks to Howard for these photos.

viper 5301 remote start trouble - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.

viper 5301 remote start trouble - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.

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howie ll 
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Posted: June 04, 2011 at 12:07 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks Kreg, don't forget to mirror image these for the US.
Don't even attempt to mount the actuator anywhere else, you will foul the window mechanism, I did loads of these up to 98/9 When they went (here) to 1 wire NEG/open circuit full motor operation.
knupdal 
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Posted: June 04, 2011 at 8:17 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks guys - I got it all done today. Didn't need any actuators just had to tap into the orange and blue/orange lock wires off of the factory set up and it works good. I appreciate all the help.
howie ll 
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Well that taught me something, the US model had "multipoint" power locks and the UK model "single point". Live and learn.
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