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JasonL 
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Posted: January 28, 2004 at 10:39 PM / IP Logged  
model x wrote:

x(y)' + yz     but I this still leaves me with the task of finding the constant 12V signal that's mentioned above.

If you think about it, that equation defines a SPDT relay constructing a nand gate - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.
If Y is true, select Z.
If Y is false, select X.
Anyways, I think you're going to have to dig up some factory wiring schematics to find the turn signal wires, unless you don't mind tracing wires in the steering column (doesn't sound fun). Or if you know the location of the turn signal flashers, that might be a start. Good luck.
superchuckles 
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Posted: January 29, 2004 at 2:56 AM / IP Logged  

talk about over complicating things...... could anyone possibly try to explain this in a more complicated method than has been done thus far?  why is it that it cannot be simply stated (the goal) like saying, "my car uses seperate turn signal and brake light bulbs, and i would like to consolidate all the signals into a single output circuit for each side, how do i do this?"  -- that was only an example, since i already know how to accomplish that circuit (and any other automotive circuit actually).... i'm just saying why not make it simple.  a nand gate logic looks like this:

constructing a nand gate - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.

and it works like this:

constructing a nand gate - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.

now, why you would want a light on when the input from both turn signals and brakes are zero is totally beyond me....  i'm guessing (because i have to due to the way your question was asked) that what you're really looking for is an XOR circuit ... which works like this:

constructing a nand gate - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.

either of those should be pretty easy to make from relays, but it helps to know for sure which / what you need first.

JasonL 
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Posted: January 29, 2004 at 2:34 PM / IP Logged  
The XOR will not work. All he needs is a single SPDT relay per side like I mentioned.
And hey, some of us enjoy talking about circuits constructing a nand gate - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.
model x 
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Posted: January 29, 2004 at 5:46 PM / IP Logged  

Hey chuckles if you read the first post you might notice where I state what I want to acheive, "I have a honda crx that uses two wires for the turn signals and two for the brake lights and I want to convert it to 2 wires so that the brake lights signal my turns".  If you already know how to solve my problem why have you not yet demonstrated it? even after the problem was already solved.

I know that I just need the input wire for the flasher, so problem solved.

thanks

superchuckles 
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Posted: February 11, 2004 at 8:31 PM / IP Logged  
firstly, the nand wouldn't work (because when the turn signal would be flashing, the light would just stay on if the brakes were on too - the xor would work, because it would still flash when the brakes were on and the turn signal on - read the logic) and - i have nothing against discussing circuits, that's why everyone is here.... it just makes it easier if you're clearer about what you want, because i can think of half a dozen ways to accomplish what you want to do, and i don't want to sit here and make a seperate schematic for each and every one - though i'm sure if you look at some of the other posts here, you will find your questions already been asked and answered long before you even posted your question.  btw, a single spdt relay is one possible solution - and it may work ok, but - try pulling all the bulbs from your vehicle except for the actual tail lights themselves (i.e. simulate having the fronts blown) and see if the single relay still works.  any permanent solution shouldn't rely on any other bulbs in the system to operate unless it's ok with you that one bulb blows and now you don't have turn signals
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