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stevdart 
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Posted: May 16, 2005 at 9:05 AM / IP Logged  

wrathchild281 wrote:
.. but now each box is gonna have a seperate slot vent port so should i build each chamber to the opt one sub box. or can i use the opt 2 box? and also how come its 2.0 cubit ft for the one but for the 2 sub specs it says to make it 3.5ft i dotn get it?

My instincts tell me it came about something like this:

Memphis tech 1:  I have to come up with some box specs to put on the site so we don't get bombarded with emails on what size to use.  I think I'll figure out, like, two different sizes...you know, give them options.

Memphis tech 2:  Yeah, that's good.  Do, like, one a little bigger than the other and maybe change the tuning, too.
Tech 1:  The thing is, most of these guys have two subs now, so I'm afraid they'll still be calling because we're only listing specs for a single sub...so I think I'll do up another one with, like, double the volume for two...
Tech 2:  Yeah, that's a good idea.  But, can't they just double it themselves?  I mean, maybe we should throw out another option here...if they have 3 options that's less emails we get!  Maybe split the difference...
Tech 1:  Done deal.  We'll make it 3 1/2 for the double.  That'll work.

So with that bit of fantasy, I'm trying to prove that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference which you choose, and that there is no rhyme or reason to make the two-sub box slightly different than what you'd get if you just doubled the size yourself.  So much of a sub installation depends on quality of the build, integrity of the wiring, placement of the drivers, accoustics of the vehicle....etc...etc.

So you should just keep the things in mind that you've learned about placing subs, such as: 

  • with multiple subs make sure they are firing in the same direction................
  • all subs having the same impedance and phase...............
  • all subs in identical air volumes...............
  • all ports identical.......
  • smaller enclosure if you have a lot of power to give them, larger enclosure if the power is meager.............stuff like that.
Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
wrathchild281 
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Posted: May 16, 2005 at 6:48 PM / IP Logged  
ok well im gonna have a jbl 1200.1 pushing the 4 subs so ya thats around 300 a sub and there rated at like 200 or 250rms. Do you recommend i go with the bigger or smaller? which is gonna be deeper and hit harder?
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Posted: May 16, 2005 at 7:19 PM / IP Logged  

They're rated for 250, IIRC from looking at it earlier...so if you send them each a true 300 watts....they'll hit hard, alright!  Harder than you want them to, I suspect.  In a situation like that, where power exceeds the capability of the subs, I would seriously look at putting them in sealed enclosures.

Oh, and about that stuff above....you read the info a little wrong in that chart.  What they're doing is showing you options for box sizes with the vent dimensions figured for you, that's all.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
wrathchild281 
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Posted: May 16, 2005 at 9:33 PM / IP Logged  
ok thanks stevdart. so you think that 4 12's sealed is gonna be louder then 4 12s ported? Remember im lookin more for spl not sq.
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Posted: May 16, 2005 at 10:15 PM / IP Logged  
No.  Safer.
Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
wrathchild281 
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Posted: May 16, 2005 at 10:42 PM / IP Logged  
ok is it still gonna be loud? and how much difference would it be between the two boxes
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Posted: May 17, 2005 at 12:01 AM / IP Logged  
Subs in ported boxes need less power than subs in sealed boxes...
That's a given.
As for loudness, I'm sure they'll be pretty equal, as long as you have set up the amplifiers properly, and have enough RMS power from the amplifier to power the RMS rating of the woofers.
All subwoofers are rated at a Maximum RMS power rating, meaning, that is the most RMS power a woofer can handle. However, this isn't the way to judge how much power your subwoofer will need. These ratings are usually for sealed enclosures of a certain size.   However, take the same woofer and put it into a ported enclosure, and you'll find the woofer will need far less power than what it was rated for. In fact, placing a woofer into a ported box, while trying to give it the RMS rated power will probably destroy the woofer.
So, if you read all that, what I'm trying to say is as soon as you set up your amplifiers properly, they should be equally loud. It's just that ported enclosures are more efficient.
~wayland
wrathchild281 
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ok ya i think im gonna port them and just set the gains and everything and i should be alrite, thanks for the info and how many hertz would you guys port it at? give me some numbers
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Posted: May 17, 2005 at 7:39 PM / IP Logged  
anyone?
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