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Ren92 
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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 12:02 PM / IP Logged  
 I have a customer that we put a remotestart on their 05  Rendezvous that for some reason the security light stays on if the car is RS and sit for more than 2 min. If  you remotstart it and get in the car before a min or so  the security light goes off. We are using the 555GW also. Anyone have this problem before?
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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 12:37 PM / IP Logged  
Although not the same vehicle, I had a similar problem with the Saturn Relay/Chevy Uplander. When you would use the remote start, it would randomly trip the service theft system indicator on the dash. I had used a 556U in both of the vans, as per directechs.
I found the GMBP through searching for solutions, put it in, and everything has been perfect since. I know that you are currently using a pk3 data interface and not a U, but maybe reprogramming it (is it reprogrammable?) would fix the problem?
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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 1:04 PM / IP Logged  
Did you hook up the brown accessory wire? I think that is one of the vehicles that has an issue if you don't hook it up.
mike swanson 
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You need to use a - park lite
Ren92 
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Yes I tried the brown wire but I still end up with the same problem. I talked to directed and that wasn't any help.  This car has 2 purple data wires for the passlock 3  and I have tried both and I get the same thing everytime. I have tried finding  a 3rd ign but no luck.
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Sorry i was so short last post ( had a cutomer)
I used the - park light on this truck.
I was told to do so by crimestopper to avoid this issue.
We have also talked about this b4 here on the12volt
It was a pontiac tho but same thing.
See if you can find that old post and see what im talking about.
        Hope this helps yo -Mike
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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 2:02 PM / IP Logged  

ren, this is a common issue with this product. and the techs @dei are no help. you may try to hook up the  other wire harness that came with the unit,it is marked for cadilacs. this harnes will stop the ign from being sent to the cars onboard computer. or use a key peice to overide the pk3....this is what is causing the problem. i know this sux but to make a customer happy it is always good to solve the problem quickly...even if it cost you a bit more.

  xs 

mike swanson 
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I did this and the customer is a good friend of ours and he hasnt had any issues
We also used a GM-SL bypass with park lite built in
If you dont have this then use a - trigger park lite
Its found at the BCM #6 gray plug (Lite Blue wire)
Remote start / security / GPS Wire/Function Vehicle Colour Location/Description Polarity
PASSIVE ANTI-THEFT YES TRANSPONDER SEE NOTES
12 VOLTS Orange (small gauge)* Ignition switch harness +
IGNITION Pink Ignition switch harness +
IGNITION 2 Dk.green Ignition switch harness +
ACCESSORY Orange Ignition switch harness +
STARTER Yellow Ignition switch harness +
TACH SIGNAL White At coil on top left of engine AC
FUEL INJECTOR Opposite from Pink At any injector on engine AC
LOCK RED / black Pin-B4 on C2 connector at BCM** -
UNLOCK RED / black Pin-B4 on C2 connector at BCM** -
DOORPIN SEE NOTES***   
TRUNK PIN RED / black Pin-A8 on C2 connector at BCM**** -
TRUNK RELEASE WHITE/ black Pin-B1 on C0 connector at BCM**** -
FACTORY ARM SEE NOTES*****   
FACTORY DISARM Violet Pin-A4 on C2 connector at BCM***** -
BRAKESWITCH White At switch above brake pedal +
PARKLIGHTS Brown Pin-B3 on C1 connector at BCM**** +
HAND BRAKE ORANGE / black Pin-A2 on C2 connector at BCM**** -
HORN Black At steering column -
DRIVER WINDOW UP Brown At switch in driver's door REV POL
DRIVER WINDOW DOWN Dk.blue At switch in driver's door REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW UP Lt.blue In driver's kickpanel REV POL
PASSENGER WINDOW DOWN Tan In driver's kickpanel REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW UP Dk.green In driver's kickpanel REV POL
LEFT REAR WINDOW DOWN Purple In driver's kickpanel REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW UP Lt.green In driver's kickpanel REV POL
RIGHT REAR WINDOW DOWN Purple In driver's kickpanel REV POL
HEADLIGHTS Yellow At light switch harness -
REVERSE LIGHTS Lt.green At fuseblock in center console -
DIMMER Gray At any illuminated switch in dash -
VSS WIRE Dk.green Pin-B8 on C0 connector at BCM**** 4000ppm
KEY SENSE Lt.green Pin-A1 on C0 connector at BCM**** -
DATABUS INTERFACE Pin-2(top row from left) Diagnostic plug below dash DATA
Vehicle notes
PLEASE NOTE: This vehicle is equipped with TRANSPONDER chips in the ignition keys. This system must be bypassed for Remote Starter installation. A keyless bypass module may be available, contact your distributor to find out. If one of these modules is not available to you, see the appropriate security diagram for bypass instructions.
* This wire should not be used to power a remote starter. You can run a line to the battery, or you can find power at the relays in the center console by removing the plastic side panel on the driver's side of the console. See the photo.
** This is a 1-wire doorlock system. A 470-ohm resistor to lock and a direct ground to unlock. This wire is located at the BCM in the center console. See the DOORLOCK diagram for exact wiring instructions.
*** Driver's door is DK.BLUE (pin-A7 on Pink plug), DK.BLUE/WHITE (pin-A3 on Pink plug) for other 3 doors. See the BCM diagram for exact pin locations.
**** The Body Control Module is locate behind the center console. Remove the plastic panel on the driver's side of the console to access. See the BCM diagram for exact pin locations.
***** System can be armed by pulsing the doorpin at the same time as lock. If your car starter has an arm wire, it can be connected directly to the doorpin. If you have to use the lock wire, be sure to use diodes to isolate the doorpin and lock relay or the doors will lock every time the door is opened. See the doorlock diagrams for exact wiring details.
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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 2:05 PM / IP Logged  
Use a different bypass module to see if it's the module. This will rule out the module if it does it again.
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Ren92 
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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 6:52 PM / IP Logged  

Yeah I tried a different bypass with same problem. I called the guys at bypass kits and they had me try a few different things to see if I chould get the 555GW to work but everything had same problem.  I order their bypass module today. I guess I will see if that works next week.


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