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bypassing an '07 avalanche vs an '06


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brcidd 
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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 2:29 PM / IP Logged  
I have an older bypass (GM SL) that I know works on an '06 - the instructions end at '06 since it is an older unit- but will it work on an '07-- my hunch is that nothing has changed in '07- but I would like to know before I go get the truck-  Thanks for your help-  I know there are newer versions- like the GM SL2 etc- but I would like to use up my inventory of GM SLs  - Thanks
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Mike M2 
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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 7:48 PM / IP Logged  
Big difference, one is Passlock 2 and the other is Passkey 3.....
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brcidd 
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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 9:09 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the quick response- What bypass module do you recommend?
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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 9:37 PM / IP Logged  
Use the CANSL2 or the PATS-GM2. Personally I would use the CANSL2 because it's got everything on there already for easy hook up ( inputs and outputs ).
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brcidd 
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Posted: November 17, 2007 at 7:55 PM / IP Logged  
I guess what has me confused is that when I look up the application of the CAN SL2 it says it is not a transponder bypass (no red dot under that header in that column) and it is not a Passlock Bypass--- But it does have a red dot under the new header "OEM Ignition Key"  -- So am I to assume that this module actually takes on the programming as if it were a third ignition key- and this is why it works when remote started- even though it does not have a wire loop to wrap around the ignition barrel?   I was afraid to buy one when both those bypass columns say it does not do that function---   Thanks for your continued input.
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Posted: November 18, 2007 at 1:52 PM / IP Logged  
It doesn't say that it bypasses a transponder because it's a PK3+ system and under the features list, it bypasses the PK3+ system which is a hybrid Passlock and PK3 system. I've used the CANSL2 system on alot of newer GM vehicles already and it's pretty slick. All you need really for bypass and interface.
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brcidd 
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Great News- You've built my confidence- that was what I wanted to hear- I'll order it right away-- Thanks again

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Posted: November 18, 2007 at 10:44 PM / IP Logged  
When you purchase one make sure you ask them to send you a Firmware 12.0 or newer otherwise there's compatibility issues. If the place has a flashlink updater they can flash the new firmware for you. This is what we do to ensure the newest software updates are available.
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brcidd 
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Posted: November 28, 2007 at 11:54 AM / IP Logged  
I got my CAN SL2 yesterday- it is firmware 12.0 which is good- I was wondering what is the best way to sense the tach signal- is the one coming out of the CAN SL2 adequate? or should I look elsewhere?  I did not see a white wire at the instrument cluster in its schematic- I haven't seen the truck yet--- Thanks- oh and the CAN SL2 instructions shows a  negative "ground out" input on connector #2-  I can only assume this is the "ground out while running" output from my remote starter- most product descriptions actually state "ground out while in R/S mode" - I can't imagine this being a permanent ground- correct?  Thanks
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brcidd 
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Did the install yesterday- all went great after I discovered that the CAN SL2 actually "introduces the starter wire through a 1280 ohm resistor for you"  I had wired the R/S starter wire through a 1280 ohm resistor to the the white start wire in ignition harness- as well as hooked up the CAN SL2 as instructed-- the CAN SL2 programmed fine- but when I tried to R/S - the engine did not crank!!  - so I figured my resistor was off- or my R/S starter wire was inop- so I cut the resistor and start wire out to measure the voltage- and the truck now starts!!!  wth - with no start wire needed---- SO my point is why did not the CAN SL2 instructions have a sidenote that states-- "HEY you don't need to wire in a start wire from your R/S unit when using this module" -----would have made a lot more sense and save me over an hour- hunting a resistor wiring, dubugging etc.....

I did have a rotten thing happen though-- when I went to stick the antenna on the windshield right below the mirror- as I pressed it into place- there was a small pop-- The @$#@$@#$ windshield cracked-- what rotten luck- the owner is not happy but understands it's not my fault- I bet I pressed with only maybe 5 lbs force- what rotten thing to happen after a very clean install.....

Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.

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