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ok, so i'm not to bad with the fiberglassing thing, and i have read about cf, i know all the resins you have to use, and stuff like that..... my question is that when you see carbon fiber, it looks like it has some depth in the texture.. is this effect acheived with only one layer of mat? and what kind of tricks are there to maintaining a steady texture without having seams show up especially on complicated designs with many curves? that's the only think i've really wondered about, i figure on something like the hood of a car that people just use one really big matt, but for dashes and what not... i'm not sure, cause there isn't a way that i can figure to get one mat to curve like you would need it to curve to not have to cut it and get seams, anyways, write me, haha
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first off, when you see a nice curved CF piece, usually it's done in a negative mold... you get the 'depth' in the weave because there is a lot more epoxy resin used in CF opposed to whats used per layer in fiberglass. the inside of the mold (outside of the finished piece) is very, very smooth, and thats why you get that nice thick layer of resin on the outside of the CF piece.  without a negative mold, or a mold period, eliminating the seams will be next to impossible..

If you wanted to make some flat panels, then take a piece of glass, ( real glass ) and lay a square of Cf on it, soak it in resin, then take another piece of glass and sandwich the Cf in between, then you could make flat piece to use as accents or whatever, and you would get a nice deep weave pattern in the piece. but other than that your options are limited

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CF is very hard and very expensive. the only way i know to learn to do it is (A) have deep pockets for trial and error or (B) apprentice with a pro. good luck bro.
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yea, i was just going to f**k around, do some of my dash stuff, i know it's costly, but i'm willing to waste a little money just to learn sh*t, encase i would ever have to do it, but i'm not going to waste tons and tons trying to be an expert at it, i don't think it would be too hard to do small flat stuff, but i didn't know about coating sh*t like dash panels or things like that, haha
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haha thank god it censors me, i might curse a little to much, haha, but yea, thanks for your help guys, i might buy some just to f**k around, but i don't think i'll really try to get into it that much, has any of you guys done any big sh*t with C F?
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You'd be surprised how well CF will lay around curves and bends, but a lot of it has to do with the weave you use. Two of the most common weaves are the plain weave and twill weave. The plain works well for flat panels and doesn't wrap around things easily. Twill weave on the other hand easily molds around contours because the way the fibers are woven allow it to move easier. I made a carbon fiber overlay of the dash in my Talon with a twill weave. Here are a couple of pics::a few Carbon Fiber questions guys -- posted image.
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And one of the finished dash in the car::a few Carbon Fiber questions guys -- posted image.
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Hmmm, not sure why that didn't work, I'll try this one
a few Carbon Fiber questions guys -- posted image.
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that's cool, that looks really good man, i might try it, the only cf place i know of is select, i can get clear resin anywere, do you know of any other places to get the mat or is select my best bet there?

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www.fibreglast.com they sell all the CF stuff you'll need at I'd say fairly good prices.
If your going to do anything big you need to learn about a technique called vacuum bagging it's how you can get those pieces so smooth and not have to sand and ruin your CF look.
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