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justtegit 
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Posted: April 19, 2005 at 10:16 AM / IP Logged  

hey guys, i havent been her for a while but i have a question.  i recently built this box for my Integra hatch, and due to the design, the vinyl part is actuallly the rear deck of the car riht under the glass.  i usually park in a garage, so i didnt notice it fo a while, but in the sun the heat actually melts the spray glue from under the vinyl and it bubbles up.  i used supper 77 the first time then i even did it again with their Hi Strenth 90 (which practically ate thru my vinyl it is so strong....i actually only put thee 90 on the fiberglass and used 77 on the vinyl back).....still the same problem.

so what could i use that wont melt in the sun?  the vinyl is holding up fine it is jus the glue btw

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realitycheck 
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Posted: April 19, 2005 at 10:27 AM / IP Logged  

Hey man good to see you again. Sorry for the reason you came back.  There is a post a on down the page called the Art of Using Vinyl where they talk about what glue to use, one guy suggested a contact adhesive instead of the 3m like you used he said it would come up in the heat.  

Here is a pic of what the stuff was

http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/prodpics/large/SIRCONTA.jpg

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Dyson 
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Posted: April 19, 2005 at 11:23 AM / IP Logged  
yeah try and find a contact adhesive mate, they bond to themselves, so a thin layer on the vinyl and a thin layer on the piece should permanently bond it
itmdtr 
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Posted: April 19, 2005 at 7:22 PM / IP Logged  

Would it be possible to use fiberglass resin as the adhesive? Mix it up normally, then use a paint brush to paint on a thin coat, and let the vinyl set up.

Just make sure the vinyl is tight to reduce the possibility of bubbling.

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I've never had the balls to possibly waste a bunch of vinyl, but I think the resin would work better than anything. But like I said, I've never tried it. Has anyone?
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M&mfabrications 
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I just finished a project with a lot of vinyl and I used Dap Weldwood Contact Cement. It worked really well. Apply it to both surfaces and let it sit for about 15 minutes. You can still remove it if you make a mistake but it's not easy. Just make sure to get the flammable kind in the red can. I have heard that the non-flammable kind does not work nearly as well (I believe it comes in a green can).
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dont use resin!! resin is way to messy and will affect the shape of the piece as it is too thick,

plus if you mess it up, you will have tons of work to get it off again! Contact adhesive or contact cement is the way to go!

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SelectProducts.com sales a adhesive that is heat activated... https://www.selectproducts.com/html/frame2/frames2.htm So you would have to use a heat gun to apply it, however with it you shouldn't have a problem anymore of the glue heating up and bubbling. Hope this helped.
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justtegit 
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thanks guys i think im gonna go with the contact ceent that M&MFab recommended if i can find it...otherwise some other contact cement
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I got it at Home Depot. Just be careful because if you use to much it can mess the vinyl up. Test it on a spare piece first. As long as you use it sparingly on the vinyl you should be okay.

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