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mtber 
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Posted: September 21, 2006 at 1:21 AM / IP Logged  
hey guys ive been hanging around reading for a while and im getting the hang of it all
ive just picked up a zr celica and i want to build a show quality boot install. i have a fair bit of experiance with fiberglassing and im currently building remote controle boat hull
my question is this. i want to build a zaney crazy unique and oridginal boot display but dont want the inorrect volume to mess up the sound so i was thinkin that i might build a mdf box to the optimum volume and then add some crazy lines to the outside of the box so it looks and sounds its best. any ideas on this or forseeable problems?
thanks for the help guys and girls
nooooooooooob
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The enclosure shape (for a subwoofer) can be anything you want it to be as long as the internal volume is correct.  Build your wild idea and then fill it with packing peanuts, then dump the peanuts into container(s) of known volume to approximately measure your enclosure.
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Posted: September 21, 2006 at 10:23 AM / IP Logged  
Yea, peanuts are good, but if you have a big supply or something smaller like rice or hell, even sand, you will get an even more accurate measurement of the airspace. (Sand can be messy)
Like DYohn said, build your frame but do not start laying resin on yet, just get the frame together, wrap your fleece or cloth around it; secure it with staples or glue or something strong enough to keep it attached to the frame, then fill it with your choice of measurement material to see what the airspace is, if it is too little or too much, remove the fabric, and design it according to how much more or less airspace it needs.
Thinking about it now, I would just use peanuts, because they are so lightweight, if you filled it with rice or sand, it would be really really heavy and could tear your fabric if it is not strong enough.
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Posted: September 21, 2006 at 12:50 PM / IP Logged  

Your idea of building a correct size box and then essentially making a beauty panel out of FG is more than fine just make sure you get it to at least 3/8" thick so vibrations don't crack it (easily). Or go with DYohn and Melted Fabric's idea. It's pretty much up to you.

If you want to attach the fleece (or whatever material you use for the FG part) to the MDF, make a 1/4' deep, 1/8" in rabbet cut into the wood and staple the material to the 1/8" side of the rabbet.

_Top __

|              |    <= 1/4" Top to Bottom
|              |
|              |      1/8" In Staple a solid line here. Then trim the excess as close as possible
|              |__V_                                                      to the staples before laying the resin.
|                        |
|                        | Side
|                        |
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Then use duraglass to fill in and smooth the top of the mdf to the fleece. This will create a smooth connection where you don't have to do any real cutting.

(This next note is more for others that may be reading this, I'm sure you already know this...)

As the fleece cures, it may shrink a little so take that into consideration when stretching/laying your material especially during larger flat areas. This will also pull on the MDF so make sure that your mdf is very secure with where it is.

The last requirement is to have fun!

Good Luck!

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mtber 
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thanks guys now im getting it cant wait to get started
nooooooooooob

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