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elmore4030 
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I was looking at a LanZar MXA282 supposed to be a 4000watt amp ,on the spec's at Ebay it has 2 x 1650watts RMS at 4ohms bridged,so it supposed to put out 3300watts RMS .I thought when it said RMS it was supposed to be clean watts.I got to looking at the rest of the spec's and it said it had a 2 x 35amp fuse.Even if it got 14.4volts at the amp,the most it could put out is 1008watts,but that is why it is only $137.I got to looking at the spec's on thier web sit and it has only 900watts as the max RMS,that sounds about right.But you useally get what you pay for.I thought all amps had to be CEA 2006 compliant.
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CEA compliance is a lot like "THX Certified". It's optional. For a manufacturer to put that little sticker on their box, I believe they have to pay. I could be wrong, though.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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You'd be amazed what you'd get out of amplifier packed in dry ice getting 18 volts. how can these amps even be advertised -- posted image.
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When it comes down to it - 900w for $137 is a good buy.  I never trust website ratings on budget amps w/o checking the manuals first, or at least the fuse size.

However --

If Lanzar wants to over-rate their budget stuff, that's their prerogative, but I think the usual 2x actual power is plenty to draw in the uninformed.  4000w on a 900w amp is ridiculous.  Regardless of the fact that just about anyone with a clue who sees 4000w and ~$150 will know better.

(always check the manuals on budget stuff - or at least the fuse size.  If neither of those are easily accessible it's a good sign to avoid it)

Most of the ratings on Lanzar's non optidrive stuff are a bad joke, and they're methodically burying what little respect they have left with Lanzar, specifically Optidrive, by the image they've given everything else.

I guess the goal with the Lanzar buyout was to cash in up front knowing they wouldn't be able to maintain (or even make an effot to maintain) the prestige Lanzar had years ago.

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Thats American business, make money now, and worry about the future tomorrow, Thats why North America is so far behind Japan, Japan bought into Dr. Deming 30 years ago, North America is finally understanding he was right and now changing there ways when it's too late, (Ford, Chrysler, Chevrolet)
If you want a sucessfull company in the long run you build quality products and don't lie to the customer, eventually it will pay off, unfortunately Lanzar wants there money now to tap into the Pyramid, Audiobahn, Boss markets.
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elmore4030 wrote:
I was looking at a LanZar MXA282 supposed to be a 4000watt amp ,on the spec's at Ebay it has 2 x 1650watts RMS at 4ohms bridged,so it supposed to put out 3300watts RMS .I thought when it said RMS it was supposed to be clean watts.I got to looking at the rest of the spec's and it said it had a 2 x 35amp fuse.Even if it got 14.4volts at the amp,the most it could put out is 1008watts,but that is why it is only $137.I got to looking at the spec's on thier web sit and it has only 900watts as the max RMS,that sounds about right.But you useally get what you pay for.I thought all amps had to be CEA 2006 compliant.

If that amp will put out 500w total rms @ 4ohms, you'd be lucky...

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Lanzar is owned by Pyramid
The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
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sedate wrote:
You'd be amazed what you'd get out of amplifier packed in dry ice getting 18 volts. how can these amps even be advertised -- posted image.
^^how can these amps even be advertised -- posted image.
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greenbroncoguy wrote:

If that amp will put out 500w total rms @ 4ohms, you'd be lucky...

It will do around 900

techman93 wrote:
Lanzar is owned by Pyramid

No, not really.

Lanzar, Pyramid, Pyle, Legacy and Blitz are all owned by Sound Around.

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Same idea... the fact they are owned by the same company is just a formality
The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
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