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longbike 
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I'd like to know about how much more power will be used to power a TV that uses 50 watts from a 12 v. battery through an inverter compared to wiring it directly to the 12 v. battery. Assume the TV has the 12/120 v. option. Essentially--what's the loss due to the inverter? Thanks.
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does the tv not have a label that tells you the power consumption??
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This is a hypothetical. I don't actually have the TV yet. I need to replace the 13" analog TV in my motor home by Feb. 2009 with a digital one. I'm trying to decide whether to get a 17-19" LCD (a great size but hard to find in 12 v. at a reasonable price) or a smaller one that uses 12v. directly. One of the primary factors is power consumption when I'm camped somewhere with no electrical hookup.
The 13" I have now allows me to watch a couple hours each evening (along with other conservative power use) for about 6 days before having to charge the house batteries.
I just wondering how much loss there is with the same (hypothetical) TV under the two voltages.
Thanks,
Keith
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Posted: November 10, 2008 at 8:21 PM / IP Logged  
Depending on the quality and the output waveform of the inverter, you could be looking as low as 50% efficiency, but most modified sine wave outputs will probably land you closer to 85 to 90%. Pure sine wave inverters are basically Class A/B power amplifiers, and will never exceed 66%.
I'd bet money that MANY 17 to 19 inch LCD monitors or TVs power bricks are 12 volt outputs, anyway. Check into that before you decide on a final purchase!
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: November 11, 2008 at 1:12 AM / IP Logged  
Regarding the power bricks, I've been told that one could just cut the brick from the 120v power cord and wire it for a 12v outlet. The problem with that is that not a single smaller TV (19") I've been able to look at has the power brick. Only the big ones do, like 42" & bigger. On the 19" ones, the power cord goes directly from the wall socket into the TV chassis. They may run on 12v, but the inverter is internal.
Keith

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