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1/0 gauge wires, what's the best?


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shatteredk 
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Posted: September 21, 2009 at 9:11 PM / IP Logged  

I have 2 S15L7's, and a Hifonics 2610.

What type of amp kit do you guys prefere? I'm looking at kicker, stinger, streetwire, and tsunami and others?

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Posted: September 21, 2009 at 10:21 PM / IP Logged  
Might as well go spend money on Monster...
Wire is wire is wire is wire... Dont waste any cash on a brand name, UNLESS you want the bling. Other than that, there will be ZERO performance difference. If you are heading for the bling, then buy whatever YOU want people to see you with.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
ianarian 
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Ya I never use a car audio brand except for a fuse and battery terminal blocks. Search for a local welding supply. See if they sell 1/0 by the foot.   Boycott MONSTER!!!
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shatteredk 
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well i'm not sure where I read ths but, someone said that the audio wires are made specifically for audio/car.

Why boycott monster?

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1: Again, wire is wire is wire is wire. There is NO difference, and there can be none shown, either acoustically or physically between a "house" wire and a "car" wire. Additionally, audio signals are audio signals are audio signals. They are AC, and so consequentally, the electrons move ONE way, and then move the other way, so there can be no proof that a "directional" audio cable is any different than a "non-directional" audio cable (as Monster likes to claim...).
2: There was no "boycott"... They just happen to be my favorite, over-priced, snake-oiled, brand name; they happen to be the most easily recognizable name around, as well... I happen to use StreetWires, but NOT for the claimed sonic benefits, I promise you. I use them, as I suggested in my first post to you, for the "bling factor". Even in my system, the single highest resolution system I have EVER built, I was unable to notice any sonic difference between Radio Shack cables (which I HAD, so I used) and the StreetWires ZN9 wires I "upgraded" to.
I'm telling you... there is no such thing as "car" wire. All conductors do the same thing. Period.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
ianarian 
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Thats the only problem with not using the "car audio brand" wire, no bling. For a while there Monster was putting a 10-12ga insulator rod thru the center of their 4ga cable. Calling it some dielectric bull$h1t. I found that out after I put the dam cable all the way through the car and put everything back together. For that I decided not to patronize them ever again. I use West Penn for my speaker wire. Its wound so tight that it wont fray after its stripped back. I try to stay away from wiring kits too. I like to pick out my wire and connectors. PLUS, your system should have a higher output alternator, big 3 and upgraded battery. By saying should, I mean I would. You may want to consider that added cable length when buying your 1/0.
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micrors4racer 
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Wells isn't there also the fact that some cheaper companies put in lower gauge wires in thick insulation?
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Unless the company likes lawsuits for negligence, I have never came across that. The wire pack is USUALLY gauged without insulation. Cheap or not, there are laws companies have to abide by to keep us, the consumers, safe. Not only would that be misleading, but extremely stupid and dangerous.
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I have to disagree with the last statement.  The lower end power cables are no comparison to the higher end.  I don't think you have to buy monster, but at least their wire sizes are honest.  Next time you go to walmart, open up one of the road gear amp kits.  Or whatever cheap crap they have on the shelf.  Their 8 ga wire is  about half the diameter of a monster 8ga.  And the copper inside, if its even copper, is very thin.  The strands basically fall apart if you try to twist them to fit into a crimp terminal.  If you are using an amp that has the terminals you slide the wire into and a set screw clamps it down, the set screw will shred the cheap wire.  I believe your hifionics is like this. 

A name brand cable is more than likely going to use the awg standards, and a higher grade copper.  I believe the awg is a guide line for wire diameter too, not a law.  If there is a law regulating the wire diameter's, I can give you about a dozen brands to start a class action lawsuit against. 

To answer the original post, if you want a decent wire without paying the price for bling, check out a welding supply store, or an auto parts store.  The wire sold at these places is usually a little cheaper than your car audio brands, but is still heavy stuff.  Most of these are going to be much thicker individual strands which make the wire much harder to bend around corners. 

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Paidnfull, im pretty sure I stated that I have never came across a misleading wire gauge. I agree with you as far as cheap cable breaking when crimped or twisted for crimping. Have you personally used these "cheap" brands? If I opened a kit to find the actual wire smaller than specified, I would not use it. In addition, if the wire isn't AWG, why take the risk?
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