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newatthisvegas 
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Posted: December 02, 2011 at 3:41 AM / IP Logged  
Hey guys, first, sorry if this is a repost, i didnt want to hijack someone elses posts.
So my amp is shutting down if i turn up the volume, my headlights also flicker when the bass hits.
My system is installed in a 2005 Crown Vic police interceptor. Has the 200A alternator and a decent battery.
The system consists of a Kenwood HU, pushing the stock front and rear speakers, and has a separate rca output for the subs, which goes to my Kenwood KAC-9105 amp. the speakers are 2 12" kicker cvr in a ported box.
When i turn my volume up to where i like to listen to it, (loud), my amp will cut out and my headlights flicker with the bass. The amp soon comes back on after about 5 to 10 seconds.
Ive read good and bad things about the capacitors you can use, so i figured i would give it a shot..... dont ream me too bad about that lol. anyways it helped alot with the dimming of the headlights, but the amp still shuts off.
The cap has a meter on it, you can clearly see that the volts drop when played at high volumes, once it gets below 11v even if for a millisecond, the amp goes out.
Anyways, the wiring kit i used to wire all this up is 4G 100% OFC, but is made by an off brand, (raptor). I would think with the 200A alternator and good battery i wouldnt have these problems. But here i am asking for knowledge of how to fix the problems lol =)
Any responses are greatly appreciated =)
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Posted: December 02, 2011 at 9:18 AM / IP Logged  
Single or Dual voice coil woofers? Any idea of the impedance of each voice coil? If Dual voice coil, did you wire the coils in series or parallel?   What is the minimum operating impedance of that amp? Have you checked the voltage at the power and ground terminals of the amp? This needs to be done with the amp playing very near the volume that makes it shut off.
newatthisvegas 
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Posted: December 02, 2011 at 4:19 PM / IP Logged  
Yes sorry forgot to add that info.
The speakers are 2 Ohm DVC, wired in series, then paralleled to the amp. So its a 2 Ohm load on the amp, The amp says its 1 Ohm stable, so should be perfectly fine at 2 Ohms.
The voltage at the amp is the same reading that i get at the cap. It fluctuates with the bass when played at high levels, and when it drops below 11v the amp shuts off, the second the amp shuts off, the volts are back to 14.4.
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Posted: December 02, 2011 at 8:26 PM / IP Logged  
The amp is probably shutting off because the voltage is dropping.  You need to investigate to find the cause of the voltage drop.
itsyuk 
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Posted: December 02, 2011 at 8:32 PM / IP Logged  

did you upgrade the ground cable to the battery to keep up with the new power cable from the battery.

are you familiar with "the big three" as discussed frequently on this forum? if not, you might find it interesting to research it.

yuk
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If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
jeffsomeone 
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Posted: December 02, 2011 at 10:17 PM / IP Logged  

itsyuk  is 100% correct .... make sure your completing the loop

also make sure your using a big enough wire from battery if running 2 amps

newatthisvegas 
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Posted: December 03, 2011 at 7:14 AM / IP Logged  
Yes I have researched the "Big 3" have not done it yet, but was wondering if that would be a fix to my problem, and also thinking that i may want to spend the money to upgrade the wiring for the amp if that may be the culperate. I guess ill try teh big 3 and and upgrade the wiring to the amp, see if that works.
But with the alternator i have and the battery i have should i be having this problem?
Thanks for all the replys =)
itsyuk 
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Posted: December 03, 2011 at 11:23 AM / IP Logged  

i wouldnt worry aboutthe raptor being inferior if you are only running that amp alone on it.

yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 7:58 AM / IP Logged  
What size wire do you have running to the amps. The alt size and battery condition do nothing if you have inferior / undersized wiring.
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beowolf150 
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Posted: December 06, 2011 at 1:16 PM / IP Logged  
Most likely man (hard to troubleshoot w/o seeing the car) your Cvrs are clipping causing the amp to kick into protect mode. Does the led go off or change color? whick would explain why it turns back on after a few seconds.
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