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Posted: July 06, 2004 at 9:11 PM / IP Logged

Hey guys, i just got a job at A&B Sound in sales, and I have always been into car audio, but very biased as far as brands go, and technical aspects. I am wondering if anyone knows of some real good basic tutorial sites that I can through to learn as much as I can. The information on here is more than helpfull for technical, but I am hoping to find some stuff that is more brand specifics. Where some brands excell, and others fail.

I don't start till next week, and I don't want to start with just basic knowledge of car audio.

Thanks guys!

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Posted: July 06, 2004 at 9:36 PM / IP Logged

Salesman end up selling whatever the customer wants anyways..

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Posted: July 06, 2004 at 9:37 PM / IP Logged

Looks like you've been around this site for awhile, but you think there is not brand-specific info here? I think there's much more in the way of brands than technical on this forum. As far as your question goes, there is no such site. Brand bias exists with everyone, even those who maintain a web site or write articles for magazines. There is no better way to get a feel for the car audio world and its brands than to read through the posts on this forum. We get more good traffic here than any forum I've visited, and much more intelligent (but readable, not snobby) discussion. You can't just skim the thread titles, though. So... start reading!

Good luck in your new job, but please be mindful of this: in audio, quality is in the ear of the beholder.

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kfr01

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Posted: July 06, 2004 at 10:53 PM / IP Logged

I think http://www.bcae1.com is a must read. It certainly dispelled some myths for me and helped me understand the reason behind many 'rules' of car audio.

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soup

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Posted: July 07, 2004 at 12:17 AM / IP Logged

stevdart wrote:

Good luck in your new job, but please be mindful of this: in audio, quality is in the ear of the beholder.

I definately realise that as far as how a system will sound, depends on the person. What sounds great to one person, sounds like crap to another... I wasnt really looking for any info as far as that goes, but rather just stuff like.. How stable are the power supplies are Zapco amps compared to Macintosh... What common problems are associatied with what brand... stuff like that.. I know that to get in depth into that stuff would take years, because ever new line, every brand, and every product, has their faults, but I was hoping there was some good must reads out there.

I have been on this site for quite a while, but only in the fiberglassing section. I think I have only 2 posts under car audio here. I have been reading for a few hours on here, and the ingo is amazing. I was expecting a lot more opinions, but most people seem to be respectfull of the fact that everyone has different tastes as far as what sounds good.

I was also hoping to find info on stuff such as, which brands are leaning more towards SPL, and which are more towards SQ. The newer shallow depth subs that a lot of companies are commingo ut with, how are they holding up? Are they way underpowered... I have 100's of qustions like these, and I knwo they will come with time, and from reading... just hoping to get a fist full of info before I start.

So I am not sure if the answer is still the same, but is there any sites out there with some good info as far as that goes? What about some magazines, what are some great, not brand specific, magazines.

soup

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Posted: July 07, 2004 at 12:19 AM / IP Logged

kfr01 wrote:

I think http://www.bcae1.com is a must read. It certainly dispelled some myths for me and helped me understand the reason behind many 'rules' of car audio.

thanks man, ill def check it out

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Posted: July 08, 2004 at 4:15 PM / IP Logged

As a former employee of Albert & Bob's I'll be glad to help you out should you need questions answered (as long as it is not in my stores trading area - then I will sink your best attempts). What store are you at?

There are many great brands in the marketplace today and sadly there is no one brand is best. There are specific applications that some of us who have been at this for awhile know will work and what kind of reasonable outcome can be expected. By the same token we can also dismiss some of the requests as well. There is no substitute for learning how to do this properly.

A&B Sound is a good tool for learning how to sell with the products they have available to them. Your shortfall is the fact that at some point in time, you will be faced with a customer that regardless of the great lines you sell, you may not have the proper solution for them. Do not sell them second best, as much as you will be trained to get the deal and earn your commission, you will go way further in this industry by understanding how to earn a customers respect properly. Treat a customer good, give them accurrate and informed information and build a relationship with them. My valued customers have followed me for almost 16 years now. If you need the info to do your job properly, post it here and some of the guys will be glad to help you out.

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Posted: July 08, 2004 at 9:56 PM / IP Logged

Here is a thread I began years ago

Some of the tutorial links are old and outdated, but most of them are still there and functional. There are akmost 100 tutorials listed there. I like BCAE best, but it is huge. www.diysubwoofers.org is a fantastic site as well, but it primarily focuses on subwoofer systems.

soup

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Posted: July 11, 2004 at 8:19 PM / IP Logged

forbidden wrote:

Hey, I am at the Saskatoon A and B

Basically what I am hoping to find, is jsut certain areas companys excel at. I used to be in to car audio, and new lines about 4 or so years ago... when the autoPC Clarion came out... but then, I put my attention elsewhere, and bought a whole crap load of rockford stuff. For the price, I have always found it to be the best... so that is all that I ever paid attention too. I know Rockford's line real well, and where they excel, and where they would be terrible. But for other lines, I am completely oblivious. Right now, I have no idea how to match a certain brand to a customers wants. That is what I am hoping to accomplish. Right now, I am not even 100 percent sure of what lines a and b sells. I know they sell JL, and Eclipse which is awesome. I know quite a bit about JL. Eclipse not so much. MTX I have always been a fan of, so I am somewhat familiar with them, but I have always just paid attention to their 10".. I know a few years back, (cant remember the model now) but they had a 10" that was the prefect balance of SQ and SPL as far as I was concerned (I know.. 10" and SPL don't usually go, but throw 3 10" mtx on a zapco (650? like i said its been a while)... I always loved that set up.

Components as well. All I ever hear about is subs amps and decks.. so I am not too familiar with mids/tweets/midbass.. whatever. Where would a three way be better than a component and crossover?

These are the type of things I am hoping to find out.

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Posted: July 11, 2004 at 8:42 PM / IP Logged

A consumer can get information-overload real quick. You'll see it happening when their eyes glaze over. You should just relax and look forward to working into the group harmonics there at the store. You probably know too much as it is already. I've been a consumer for many years (help...I've fallen...), and when it comes to electronics, I just want sales help who is interested in my needs and available to help. They help, answer (or go look up an answer to) my questions, and they make a good sale and everybody's happy. Too often I run across ones who start rattling off information I didn't specifically ask for. That makes me run...to the internet.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

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