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mpathy 
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   Hello ,

    Just join and realy nedds some advise. I have a 96' pathfinder and want to hook up a nice system that is loud but not to loud ... Just enough to hear good out side of my truck. 

    Here what I currently have ...Head unit = Kenwood KDC2019 cd player with front and rear rca outs.  

  Speakers = Voice - 4 Pioneer 2 way 6.5 TS-G1640R 4 ohms 160W max and 30W rms and for bass I have 2  visionix  V1065S4 10" in a sealed inclosure.  For my amp" I have a 100w amp 2ch. bridged for al for pioneers and I have a V117SX  400 Watt 2 Channel Amplifier (2 x 100W Rms @ 4§Ů 2 x 150W Rms @ 2§Ů 1 x 400W Max @ 4§Ů ) Bridged.

   So far It sounds ok But , I am one to keep tryng to get it better . I have my fader set to push more to the rear which is my sub for the reason that if it is level I get no bass. Like I said before so far it is ok the way I have it .

  What I want to do it lose some of the bass on my pioneers and be able to level everything out so that when I have the volume up high it sound good and not distorted. I have also noticed that at nit I can see the power drain from the system on my truck.. My head lights well all the lights in the truck dim when the bass hits .....

????  How can I get what I want done cheap as my wife is holding the money( you married guys know what I mean)? Do I need a capasitor?  What can I do ?

 Any help is greatly appreciated.

   

   

 

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for lights, check all amp wireing, you arent using all that much power. if not get a half farad capacitor, a cheapo one should be fine. or try disconnecting some accessoriesif you have any that might take up a decent amount of juice. for tuning the system, you could either get crossovers and an equalizer if you want to go all out, or get a get a deck with crossovers in it and sell the old one. make sure the deck has at least 4v preouts for the future. if really short on cash, get some crossovers for the doors
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Those amps shouldn't be using that much juice.  Do you have the gain set correctly on the sub amp? 
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Posted: October 06, 2004 at 7:49 AM / IP Logged  
You're using two coaxials?  They are rated too low for use with an amp, at 30 watts.  Trade them out for 50 watt models.  The amp is 2 X 50?  The subs are wired to an impedance of 2 ohm?  Make sure you have the high pass filter on for the speakers, and the low pass filter on for the subs.  For the dimming problem, you may have some old wiring that needs replaced under the hood. Clean the ground connections.
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mpathy 
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stevdart wrote:
You're using two coaxials?  They are rated too low for use with an amp, at 30 watts.  Trade them out for 50 watt models.  The amp is 2 X 50?  The subs are wired to an impedance of 2 ohm?  Make sure you have the high pass filter on for the speakers, and the low pass filter on for the subs.

Stevdart what do you mean?

 Thanks all for the info I will be tryng to get a capasitor soon. 

  Kfr01 I have the gain all the way up for the sub and 1/2 way for the highs. I Have to have the fader on the HU more to the rear(subs) to get bass. If I level it out I won't get any bass.  How should it be?

bullman96 could I just use bass blockers for the doors? will that work?

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Sounds like you need a crossover. It will help you clean up the bass out of the door speakers and leave only bass for the subs. Might help you with fader issues depending on the crossover you get. Like the others said , check the wiring. Maybe need to upgrade to bigger ground wires or just check the ones you have for good connection.
mpathy 
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  What about bass blockers will that work ? What is the bigger ground going to do for me ?

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the grounds may or may not be the reason your lights are dimming when the bass hits. Just somthing to look into.

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Posted: October 06, 2004 at 9:46 PM / IP Logged  

What did I mean?  I asked some questions there.  Are you using two speakers or four?  And the speaker rating is 30 watts, which is too low for use with an amplifier. Trade up for better ones.

You said "a 100 watt amp, 2 channel, bridged for the pioneer speakers".  Is that a 2 X 50 watt amp?  And why are the speakers bridged?  You have the speakers wired in parallel at a 2 ohm load?  Instead, work out a way to power your main speakers at 4 ohm, not below.

Do you have the subs wired to 2 ohms?

And more...you have the gains all out of whack.  All the way up on one amp??  Halfway on the other?  You need to start over, write down a diagram of everything you have hooked up together, make a list of all the wiring, everything.  Forget about capacitors with this.  Forget about bass blockers.  You just need to get the basics right.  And 30 watt speakers for your main speakers just aren't going to cut it.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
mpathy 
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Posted: October 06, 2004 at 10:33 PM / IP Logged  

 Yes the amp is 2x50.I am useing 4 speakers.

I have it brigded to get the full 100watts out of it.
They are 30 rms 160w max. Is thatstill to low. I just bought them
about 2 mnth ago. They are not wired parallel I am not sure how to do
that.

 The sub was in a sealed inclosure already . I am not sure how they have it wired.

I will have to take some time to rework all of it . My main concern is not to spend
more than I already have . I would like to get this working right with what I have
now if I can.

 Thank you guys for all the help... I am learning alot. 

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