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jkyliej 
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Posted: October 27, 2004 at 9:48 PM / IP Logged  

I have recently purchased an Alpine 9835 head unit and MRD-M501 Mono amp to drive a sub or subs.  Is this too much amp for one 10 sub?  If it is recomended to drive two 10's then what is the prefered ohm rating and voice coil count?

Thanks much.

jkj
jeffchilcott 
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some subs will handle 500rms just fine. depends on what you want to spend   I dont remember what the type r sub takes but I think it is somewhere around there
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jkyliej 
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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 12:43 PM / IP Logged  

So if I go with one Alpine Type R 2ohm DVC and wire it correctly that I will create a 4 ohm load that the amp will provide 225 watts RMS.  This should be safely within the speakers 300 watt RMS rating.  I read some reviews on the speaker and it seemed to please.  It either that or go with an Infinity Perfect 10 single voice coil rated at 4 ohm's but there seemed to be some low frequence rattling a couple people noticed.

One other question I did have last night was if anyone knows of a slick spot to penetrate the firewall on a 1998 Chev pick-up full size on the passenger side.  Or for that matter either side.  I have one small penetration on the driver side for the remote start I installed but would prefer the passenger side due to the fact that the battery is on that side and it means less 4 ga wire I need to buy if I go through this side. 

Lastly, is it recomended that I run a ground for the two amps back directly to the battery as well?   The other amp is an Alpine MRV-301 if I remember right.

Thanks

jkj
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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 12:53 PM / IP Logged  

Here is the real rating of your amplifier.

• 425W x 1 RMS (2ohm;@12V 1% THD+N)

Here is how to get full capability from this amp.

Wiring Option #1234567890

What to do -- posted image.

Wiring Option #8648.984What to do -- posted image.

The first pic shows a single dual voice coil sub of 4 ohms per coil wired in parallel. The second pic shows two single 4 ohm subs wired in parallel. Whatever sub you go with, they must be one of these types.

On the passenger side, really, really low, center of the footwell,  there is one spot to drill though the firewall. Pay very close attentiom to any bolt holes and look for them on the other side to get your bearings. Yes you can run the ground line back to the battery if you prefer.

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jkyliej 
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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 3:16 PM / IP Logged  

Way cool. Thank you.

This bring s up another question.  If I buy the 4 ohn speakers you have suggested and wire like you have shown I will be pushing 425 watts RMS.  Doesn't this risk blowing the sub which is rated at 300 watts RMS?  I had thought that if I bought a 2 ohm speaker and wired it to create a 4 ohm load it would place the amp at a 225 watt config that would be safer for the sub. Is this correct?  Feedback?

Thanks again

jkj
speedwayaudio1 
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each sub will get 212.5 wrms.
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jkyliej 
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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 3:39 PM / IP Logged  

I am going to run one 10" sub for now. 

//Justin

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It is better to overpower a sub then underpower it, as long as your signal is clean,    with gain properly adjusted the alpine would have a nice clean signal that 425 watts rms is nothing to worry about...look at it this way, we have ran close to 1000 watts to a JL w0 with no problems if you read Mobile entertainment mag. they test all the subs with a crown macro 5kw.    which puts out 5000 watts rms, they run this on every sub they test and dont blow them!
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jkyliej 
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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 6:32 PM / IP Logged  

Well that is good news then because I would rather buy the 4 ohm speaker just in case I decide to add another ten to the truck and that if I do I have not purchased a 2 ohm sub I would have to replace with a 4 to run a pair. Did I loose you on that one?  You see I am leary that this one 10" will not be enough.

So basically if I keep a keen ear and don't let it distort and keep the gain turned down I should be fine with the single sub? 

Thanks

jkj
jkyliej 
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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 8:36 PM / IP Logged  
So does the amp output (425) split into 212 watts to each by running two subs?  And in turn if I run the single sub it stays at 425 watts? 
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