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spitfireguy1185 
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I heard that american amps are held to stricter standards and will play better than MOST of the imported overseas amps...I am talking about amps with RMS wattage of above 800w...i think there is some truth to that cause i had a pioneer on 2 cvr's and it would clip and then a kenwood on it and it clips then switched to JBL and never clipped and they were all class D mono blocks and had rms wattage 400rms-500rms...

WHAT DO YOU THINK? ARE AMERICAN AMPS BETTER THAN MOST IMPORTED????

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You can't make blanket statements like that.  The answer is not necessarily.  Some of the best amps in the world do not come from America.  Also some of the worst amps in the world.
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Here's an interesting thought. Amps are judged to be made in the country where the most dollars ( parts and labor) are spent in it's manufacturing. The most expensive part on most amps? The heat sink!
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That's right.  Plus US law states that in order to label something as "Made in USA" a "substantial portion" of the assembly must either originate in the USA (like the heat sink and the case) or a "substantial transformation" must occur in the USA - like anything labeled "Assembled in the USA" which probably means from all imported parts.

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I doubt even the finest Fujitsu-Ten amp would compare to McIntosh or Zapco.
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Audison makes a pretty fine imported amp......
Kenwood isn't too bad at all either......
Last I remember the Eclipse stuff wasn't bad....
Xtant is a pretty solid domestic product, whereas QX series PG wasn't.....
Gotta remember.... you get what you pay for.... sometimes you pay for what you get.
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sedate wrote:
I doubt even the finest Fujitsu-Ten amp would compare to McIntosh or Zapco.
Are you implying that Eclipse is not all it's cracked up to be? If so we're gonna hafta have words, my friend! American Amps vs. Imported -- posted image.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
london luke 
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Posted: September 30, 2005 at 2:56 AM / IP Logged  

What amps are "made in America" like the good old Soundstreams and Rockords from years ago?

Most stuff now is made in the far east and sold as "American " etc.

You could say that if you wanted the best None American amp (European etc) then its Genesis and Sinfoni etc. 

I dont care who makes it!! In fact to some degree I like the Chinese stuff... They think like the English when it comes to sound.

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http://www.usamps.com/
The BEST OF THE best amps in the world USA MADE
I have alpine amps and there good dont get me wrong but these amps make my alpines sound like childs toy speaker.
if you have the cash this is the best ask around you will see talk to people who have 20-50k audio systems or if you go to like DUB magazine car shows etc. you will see these amps in alot of the vehicles
spitfireguy1185 
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I have noticed that systems in excess of 1000w RMS per woofer have performed better with RF, Kicker, JBL, MTX, XTANT, JL all american amps ... I have a 12" rockford fosgate POWER STAGE 2 DUAL 2 ohm 1000w RMS and I had a kenwood 9152d 1000w RMS at 1ohm and a JBL power valve BP600.1 that pushes 600w RMS at 1 ohm and the JBL blows the kenwood out of the water and the JBL NEVER clipped or over heated and the kenwood overheats in 3 min of play and clips out often. this test was done on the same wiring and system setup on the same day so i tested one amp then switched them.. I WILL NEVER STRAY FROM AMERICAN AMPS EVER AGAIN!!!!
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