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xentrix 
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Posted: January 11, 2006 at 11:29 PM / IP Logged  
Hi readers.
I have a Clarion HU driving a Fusion FR4-1000X amp and a little Sony XM-150 amp. The Sony runs fine, no issues.
The FR4 is a 4 channel amp running in 3 channel mode. Ch 1 & 2 drive the fronts in stereo, 3 & 4 are bridged to run the sub which has 4 8's, 2 in series, 2 in parallel.4 ohms. The Sony runs rears.
After installing and running up, the speakers on the FR4 all produced an oopa oopa oopa type sound and the FR4 went into protect mode.
To isolate things down, I ran a discman off its own batteries into the FR4 and it ran fine.
The head unit running the Sony amp works fine.
The head unit running ch 1 & 2 of FR4 works fine
The head unit running ch 3 or 4 went unstable (even with no music playing)
The head unit running ch 3 or 4 sperately driving the sub is fine. Its just when its bridged it goes gaga.
I know it sounds like the subs load is to low for the amp in bridge mode, but its fine with the discman, and was fine in the previous car.
The car is a 1983 Australian Ford Falcon, factory electronic ignition, no other mods apart from a 40A noise suppressor on the battery.
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Posted: January 12, 2006 at 9:52 AM / IP Logged  
trtyed the LPF filter on the amp and is the amp bridgeable and what are your ohm wired at?
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Posted: January 12, 2006 at 12:09 PM / IP Logged  
Your gain is too high.
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xentrix 
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Posted: January 12, 2006 at 9:14 PM / IP Logged  
Yeep the amp is bridgeable. 4/3/2 channel. 2 ohm stable in stereo. The sub has 4 4ohm drivers. 2 in series and 2 in parallel, which presents 4 ohms.
I'l give it a try with the gain turned down, but it went unstable without any music playing, and its fine with the discman. Have tried it on LPF and Flat and got the same result.
I'l post a reply a bit later. Cheers.
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Posted: January 14, 2006 at 4:23 PM / IP Logged  
Damn! I was listening to Bass Mekanik on the discman and it put the amp into protect and it hasn't reset, neither fuse has blown. I think i'll (run off and finance a new system), pull it apart again and run it up out of the car.
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Posted: January 14, 2006 at 7:32 PM / IP Logged  
Turn the gain down and rewire the subs. (according to your limited info they are wired incorrect). Current takes the path of least resistance, if you have a pair of 4 ohm subs wired in parallel to 2 ohm and a pair wired in series to 8 ohm, you are asking for problems. You need to wire each pair in series to 8 ohms and then wire each combined pair in parallel to see a net 4 ohm load. Confirm that this is how you wired the subs.
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