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cloak559 
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Posted: August 02, 2006 at 8:19 PM / IP Logged  
Like some of you know, Im in the process of rebuilding my single 12" SQL system...I have a Kenwood KAC-9102d which is running at about 800-850w ,and Im in the process of building a new ported enclosure.  I originally wanted a Type-R 12" but the owner of the stereo shop here offered me a P3 at a pretty good price.  Now, Im not really at debate as far as the SQ goes, because with Alpine or Rockford comes nothing but the best IMO...What my concern is, is the power handling.  Alpine says the Type-R's peak handling is 1500w and the P3 is 1000w...Now, my Power Acoustik said it would handle 1000watts peak and I melted the voice coils yesterday(but of vourse thats Power Acoustik)...So my question is what do you think would be a better choice for someone who has a "Pump up the Volume" problem?  Type-R 12"...Or ...P3 12"....?  Any other sub suggestions are acknowledged too...Something under $300 preferably...
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(1)US Amps MD3D
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Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...
aznboi3644 
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Posted: August 03, 2006 at 6:49 PM / IP Logged  
Type R's sound better than P3...about it...have heard both in sealed boxes to spec...big noticeable difference.
cutlass013 
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Posted: August 03, 2006 at 7:38 PM / IP Logged  
in ported the P3 would probably be louder but if its quality you want lol.. the the R probably would be for you.. i have known Rockford to be more vibrating loud then actual clean sound coming from em.. but hey what ever keeps the boat afloat
killer sonata 
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Posted: August 03, 2006 at 8:06 PM / IP Logged  
SQL? first off thatas a made up term. Second, by SQL im guess you want something that isnt good enough for SQ or for SPL (something in the middle? From those 2 choices id pick the type-R. a friend of mine has a P2 and i put it in a nice tight little sealed box and it still sounds loose and sloppy to me. just like my ex. WHAT?!?! lol. anyways, the power handling is not what makes a sub good for SQ. for instance, a focal 27KX is an 11" sub that only handle 350 RMS but it is extremely efficient. There are a lot of other factors that go into play when choosing a SQ sub.
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cloak559 
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Posted: August 03, 2006 at 11:26 PM / IP Logged  
hahah, real nice killer.  I got a nice chuckle out of that....After talking with a few people and geting some prices Im seriously thinking about a TC-2000 DVC. Theyre only about $300 and from what I hear, TC Sounds allready has a rep for great drivers...  As for my reference to SQL, I simply mean that I want an SPL system that doesnt just make loud noises...Im interested in doing some entry level competing in the future and I really want to buy the right sub...Ive already droped a couple hundred before and I dont want to do it again...At least with the TC-2000 I can just replace the top assembly...What do you guys think?
'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz
Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...
cutlass013 
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Posted: August 04, 2006 at 12:03 AM / IP Logged  

for you i would get the TC the rms on that alpine is only 200-500 and you said your amp is hittin at 800-850 doesnt sound like the alpine could handle it unless you bought 2 was that your plan if so then get the alpine i see more benefits if only one then get the TC seems like it could handle it but just steer away from RF nothing against them just not the best subs

cloak559 
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Posted: August 04, 2006 at 10:52 AM / IP Logged  
Well Im actually only going to run ONE twelve, whether it was a Type-R or a TC.  So it looks to me like the TC is gonna be a better bet for a one sub setup. Especially concidering the power im running...and $300 is a small price to pay for that quality.  Hell, im paying more than that for the enclosure and sound dampening...
'89 Mercedes-Benz 300E
Pioneer DEH-5900UB
(2)RE Audio SX 10"s
(1)US Amps MD3D
3ft^3 @ 37Hz
Blowing up in a car accident doesnt worry me, as long as I'm putting out some major dB's when I die...
aznboi3644 
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Posted: August 04, 2006 at 5:39 PM / IP Logged  
Yes...all of the new RF Punch subs have that doodiety brittle as fack cones...they just plain suck.
killer sonata wrote:
SQL? first off thatas a made up term. Second, by SQL im guess you want something that isnt good enough for SQ or for SPL (something in the middle? From those 2 choices id pick the type-R. a friend of mine has a P2 and i put it in a nice tight little sealed box and it still sounds loose and sloppy to me. just like my ex. WHAT?!?! lol. anyways, the power handling is not what makes a sub good for SQ. for instance, a focal 27KX is an 11" sub that only handle 350 RMS but it is extremely efficient. There are a lot of other factors that go into play when choosing a SQ sub.
Killer...I didn't mean to get your ex as loose as a goose before you got here..but man she was just beggin for it...lol
Paradigm 
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SQL...the real choice of audiophiles everywhere (copyright pending) Type-R Vs. P3 -- posted image.
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killer sonata 
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Posted: August 04, 2006 at 10:10 PM / IP Logged  

Paradigm wrote:
SQL...the real choice of audiophiles everywhere (copyright pending) Type-R Vs. P3 -- posted image.

well put but I hope to god this was sarcasm! Dont get me wrong I have a decent SQ setup and a mild SPL setup but it involves completely different equipment. It is very possible to have the best of both worlds in one vehicle, just not with the same setup.

And as for getting my ex loose, well shes been my ex for almost 6 years now so its all good!

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