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importhunter 
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Posted: December 02, 2007 at 11:15 AM / IP Logged  
First one is a rockford 401s 1200w punch amp, its the gun metal style. The power touched the ground. I have another one to match so I want to keep this one. No visual burn marks on anything.
fix two fried amps? -- posted image.
This one is out of a MTX thunderform. the status LED comes on and is green but it does not put out anything. I am not sure what happened to it.
fix two fried amps? -- posted image.
fix two fried amps? -- posted image.
fix two fried amps? -- posted image.
these are not is the same vehicle.
importhunter 
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Posted: December 02, 2007 at 11:16 AM / IP Logged  
I figured I would post the pics large so you guys might see something I cant.
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Power touching ground should have blown the fuse at your battery.  It should not have hurt the amp.   Do you have an ohm meter to do a little troubleshooting? 
importhunter 
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Posted: December 02, 2007 at 1:47 PM / IP Logged  
Yeah I have alot of testing stuff just not sure where to start or what I am looking for since there is no visual damage.
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Posted: December 02, 2007 at 2:03 PM / IP Logged  
With the rockford i looks like it has to amp stages, on on each side, so both amp stages should be identical, take your ohm meter and test the resistance on those mosfets and compare them to the mosfet resistance on the other side, check all 3 resistance combination on each fet, if they are off by quite a bit then you will for sure need to get that amp repaired.
Thats a start, it's going to be hard to repair that amp if you don't have much repair skills, since it uses those micro resistors, I would recommend sending them to a local technologist.
2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
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If it were me I would put the amp back in the vehicle and verify you have 12 volts on power and remote.    The 2 transistors at the bottom left and bottom right are the power supply transistors.  Set you ohm meter to the Diode test function.  Touch and hold one lead to the metal tab of one of the transistors and then touch the other lead to one of the outside legs.  Then touch to the other outside leg.   Do this with all 4 transistors.  None of them should read below .300 after leaving the leads there for 10 seconds or so.  If any of them read below that  let me know what it reads.

importhunter 
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Posted: December 02, 2007 at 6:20 PM / IP Logged  
can you show me exactly where? I tested the 330uf caps and they all read 805.
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Posted: December 02, 2007 at 6:23 PM / IP Logged  
The RF led doesnt come on.
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Posted: December 02, 2007 at 6:28 PM / IP Logged  
also while I am on the diode setting I put the ground on the ground on the amp and the + on the + and I get a reading of 804
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Notice on the bottom left of your picture, on the Green strip that all of the 3 legged thingys are mounted to.  There are 2 designations ON THE GREEN STRIP   One is TC7 and the other is TC8   Those are the 2 power supply transistors on that side.  On the lower right side of your picture the green strip has 2 other labels  one is TC15 and the other is TC16.  These are the 2 transistors on the right side. 
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