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scoots 
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Posted: April 06, 2007 at 2:40 PM / IP Logged  

I recently purchased a motorcycle alarm  for my 2002 Yamaha Zuma Scooter scooter.  I  have the wiring diagram for the alarm but am a confused on how to wire certain parts of it.  This is what I have figured out so far:

Pink alarm wire --> Ignition side of BLACK/ White wire

Grey alarm wire --> CDI side of BLACK/ White wire
Red alarm wire --> +ve Red battery wire
Yellow alarm wires --> Chocolate and Dark Green blinker light wires
Orange alarm wire --> ? (Lock (positive output))
Black alarm wire --> ? (Engine-stopper wire)
Blue alarm wire --> ? (Positive Electricity Starter Wire)

Alarm wiring diagram: http://www.provoscooter.com/vbull/attachment.php?attachmentid=3350

Wiring diagram of the scooter's ignition are found here: http://www.provoscooter.com/shop/Zuma_Service_Manual.pdf

Thanks

custom audio ny 
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Posted: April 07, 2007 at 7:19 PM / IP Logged  

You forgot one important detail...to actually ask a question..

But I have several....however I got a kick out of the chocolate wires..yummy...lol

orange wire for lock outputs..I don't think your scooter has doorlocks?  does it? and is that what that wire is for?

engine-stopper wire...what does that mean?? does it go to a starter kill? It looked to me like the starter is already interuppted with the BLACK/ white..but the terminology makes no sense to a seasoned installer..trust me. Perhaps it sends ground to the ignition coil to shut the engine down..perhaps it does that instead of a starter kill but that is NOT a safe way to prevent theft..not at all.

The blue alarm wire for "positive electricity starter wire"..I would assume that goes to the starter  wire...but for what?  Is this a remote start as well?

I don't think anyone can help unless they are familiar with that alarm system..I have never heard of it. And the wire descriptions make about as much sense as chocolate wires.. Sorry had to...lol

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scoots 
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Posted: April 07, 2007 at 11:21 PM / IP Logged  

opps. well my questions is:  How do I go about wiring this alarm to the ignition?

The colouring scheme for the wires (i.e. "chocolate" wires) come from the scooter service manual in the link.  Not my choice of terms.

It's supposed to be a remote starter as well.

I myself, am also quite confused as to what the terms on the wiring diagram are referring to.  Also, not my choice of terms.  The diagram comes with the alarm.  I've been trying to understand the diagram and the terms on it for a long time and have not been able to. 

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Posted: April 07, 2007 at 11:52 PM / IP Logged  

yeah I noticed also in the manual it says chocolate wires....does it have chicken?? and pizza colored too??  Kidding but thats funny.

Anyhow..I really would like to help.I tried to understand but it is too wierd. Is there any other info or manual about the alarm?..the one diagram is a joke.....wires are crossing each other...wires go from the alarm to the key switch...those things with engine stopper and stuff. just a bit tricky.

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Posted: April 08, 2007 at 12:02 AM / IP Logged  

ok  I am getting it..a little I think...look in the manual..apparently there is an engine stopper switch..find that switch and connect.

positive elctric. start wire....go to the start button and connect to the wire that puts out positive when starting...the lock output is tricky....but there must be some wire that turns positive when you "lock" the scooter...do you notive any kind of lock switch on it?

If so..connnect to the wire that turns + when you lock the switch...must be what they mean.

everything else seems more or less straight forward..follow the diagram carefullly...if you need anymore help just give a shout.

Custom Audio
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scoots 
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Posted: April 08, 2007 at 1:13 AM / IP Logged  

There are 5 wires coming out of the ignition coloured: BLACK/ white (single wire), black, red, brown and grey

I realized that I misinterpretted the drawing (reflected in original post).  The black alarm wire is not the engine-stopper wire (the grey alarm wire is).  I have this grey alarm wire figured out already.  The alarm's wiring drawing actually shows that the black alarm wire connects to the negative battery terminal, which is also connected to the ground.  Should I be connecting the black alarm wire to the black ignition wire on the scooter?

Yes, there is a lock switch on the scooter's ignition.  I'm not sure as to what this switch will activate.  To my knowledge, all that it does is physically lock the steering column of the scooter.  Another user on the Provoscooter forum called the "lock (positive output)" an "ACC Output".  In this case, would it make sense to connect the orange alarm wire to the grey ignition wire (the grey ignition wire is known on Provoscooter as the "Hot Switch Wire")?

If my predictions about these two wires are correct, I only have one more wire to figure out, the blue ("Positive Electricity Starter Wire")

Thanks for your help Custom Audio.  Wiring this alarm sure makes me hungry! motorcycle alarm on scooter -- posted image.

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Posted: April 08, 2007 at 8:54 AM / IP Logged  

I feel kinda bad for you that you need to "perdict" what to connect. If I did that in new cars today I would be popping airbags like crazy. One of my main things about installing is to NEVER connect ANYTHING unless you know exactly what it does...and can verify with a meter.

Now tru..we have a few wires that are tricky in your case. I also worry about connecting a black wire to ground AND to the ignition switch. First off...the ignition wires have no reason to be grounded...secondly..if that wire at the ign. switch was already a ground..why would you need to run it to ground?...thirdly...if it puts out any voltage..and you connect it to ground...you will blow fuses or worse...burn wires. So that diagram sucks and can cause problems because it sucks.

be careful. Wish I could help more.

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dualsport 
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Posted: April 08, 2007 at 9:29 AM / IP Logged  
This looks oddly similar to a system someone else was trying to install as a remote start. Don't know if it'll be any help, but maybe it'll give some additional clues in trying to figure it out.
Link
He never came back though, maybe it remote started and whisked off to parts unknown...
motorcycle alarm on scooter -- posted image.
custom audio ny 
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Posted: April 08, 2007 at 10:02 AM / IP Logged  

Yeah the diagram looks better..still sucks..but better..at least it shows relays..which you would need to remote start it.

Anyhow I am off to the Autoshow today...i'll look it over in detail later and see if I can help.

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scoots 
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Posted: April 08, 2007 at 1:18 PM / IP Logged  
Is there anyway I can lose the remote starting feature and just use the alarm feature on my setup?
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