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erusso17 
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Hello, I am looking to install the DEI 508d and 516U in my car. My car (2009 G37 coupe) has the factory alarm and no Ground When Armed that i know of. Im looking to see if there is a way i can find, or create a ground when armed in my car. thank you!
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Does it have a +12V when armed?
If so, an inverting (polarity) relay see Relays - Converting Polarity on this site. (The alarm turns on a relay which connects ground #30 to #87.)
Otherwise others will have to answer...
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if your trying to wire in shock sesors only to a factory alarm, dont even bother. there is no way to trigger the factory alarm with aftermarket sensors.
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tedmond wrote:
if your trying to wire in shock sesors only to a factory alarm, dont even bother. there is no way to trigger the factory alarm with aftermarket sensors.

Why...Are you meaning on this specific car...? We use to install just a shock sensor on factory alarms on toyota,honda,etc...?

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i really dont want this tied into my cars alarm at all. I would just like the 508d to trigger the 516u so if someone comes near my car the voice alarm will trigger. I think this is possible if i can create a simple ground when armed so the 508d knows when my car is off.
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off and locked (preferably)
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Microwave detector.
erusso17 
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im sorry, what is a microwave detector and how can i use it to create a ground when armed? thanks again
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A microwave detector is one that doesn't respond to moving air ant isn't too susceptible to false glass breakage triggers (if at all AFAIK).
It is sometimes used as a proximity detector.
I got one so that I can arm my alarm with windows open and detect an intruding torso or part thereof by not air etc (ie, ultrasonic detectors would false trigger).
Although like may detectors they are often a ground output (an "open collector" output), it is merely a detector that can be used for alarms etc.
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OK, so I have way too much time on my hands.  When I first read this thread I sketched out a drawing of how I thought I could make a gwa output using only transistors and resistors.  Tonight I finally built it, tweaked it a bit, and redid it in paint.  It works great, toggling the output based on (+) actuator triggers.

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