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2009 toyota camry, autopage rs 665 2w


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souljah972 
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I am going to install an Autopage C3-Rs-665-2W in my 2009 toyota camry, I have only done one alarm in my 2008 honda accord successfully thanks to this site its post and peoples responses. Like I have read on other post Autopage wire colors are different then  the Viper's. On theViper I cut the starter 1 wire on the car and put the Violet car side and Green key side. With this autopage it does not say to cut any wire but only were to place them which I do not understand.

It says about the Violet : Starter Wire (+) Output from the Autopage unit Note: This wire must be connected to the vehicle side of the starter cut relay(when used). For the electrical neutral switch configuration, this connection must be made between the starter inhibit relay (when used) and the neutral safety switch as shown in this pic.

2009 toyota camry, autopage rs 665 2w -- posted image.

Autopage #H1 6 pin Heavy Gauge Wire Harness

Red: Remote start Power 1

Red: Remote start Power 2
Violet: Starter(+) Output 
Pink: Ignition 2(+) Output 
Yellow: Ignition 1(+) Output 
Brown: Acc/Heater(+) Output

The Camrys wires

12 Volt: Black

Ignition 1: Yellow
Ignition 2: Pink
ACCessory 1: White
Starter 1: Blue
Starter 2: Grey

So both Reds to Black

Yellow to Yellow
Pink to Pink
Brown to White
Violet to Blue

I also understand that the Camry has 2 Starter wires and that I need to use the(-) 200mA Starter 2 Output wire, connect that into a relay, then to the second starter wire.

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It looks like it's giving you the option to wire up a starter kill or not. If you don't want to cut factory wiring you can just tap into the starter wire.
And if the cars automatic, I normally just ground out the nss wire, but you can most likely find the wire at the shifter.
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Posted: February 17, 2010 at 11:47 AM / IP Logged  
What he said.
If you've only installed a Viper before, you probably remember, just as you said, that the unit has a green wire and a purple. You cut the car's starter wire and connected the green and purple to each half.
That's because the Viper (thankfully) already has the starter kill relay built in---when the alarm is armed, and you (or a car theif) turns the key to Start, power goes into the green wire, but the kill feature doesn't allow any power to come out on the purple wire....and therefore the car doesn't start.
The Autopage unit doesn't have a built in starter kill; it uses an external relay. The relay (and its plug-in wire harness) might be shipped loose in the box, or might be pre-wired to some other part of the alarm to save you a litle time.
Like 1xle said, you could choose to simply not connect the starter kill feature at all (your car does have an immobilizer key from the factory), or connect it as shown in the diagram.
The diagram shows you cutting the car's factory starter wire in half, then connecting each half to the appropriate wires from the relay...........and then it shows you connecting the purple wire a little further "downstream" along the car's factory starter wire.
They drew the diagram that way just for clarity. Most installers would take the "output" side of the starter kill relay, the purple wire from the remote starter, and the "downstream" side of the car's factory starter wire.....and connect all THREE wires together at the same time. Just makes the job a little neater and quicker....but that's up to you.
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As far as the neutral safety switch shown in the diagram:
1. You're already (I assume) making your connections under the driver's dashboard, in the harness that comes from the steering column.....you can visually see that there are no other devices in between your connections and the car's keyswitch.
2. Because of that, you KNOW that the Toyota's neutral safety switch is somewhere "downstream" from your connections, just as shown in the diagram. Maybe the Toyota neutral switch is at the shifter, maybe it's under the hood near the car's starter motor.........you really don't have to know or care where it is, since you already know that you're doing your work "upstream" from the switch as you're supposed to.
3. Because of #1 and #2 above, you can rest assured that you're doing this part of the job correctly, and that after the install is done, you can do the test described in the install guide if you'd like. The remote starter will not crank the car if the car is in gear.
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Second starter wire:
Yes, you're right. Use the unit's negative second starter output to drive a relay, to trigger the car's second (small gray) starter wire. I'd guess that the Autopage install guide probably even includes a relay diagram for you.
Some installers shortcut by simply jumping the two Toyota starter wires together and treating them as one, but that's contrary to the way the car was designed.....Toyota must have used two separate circuits for a reason. It's just as well that you're starting your installation with good habits!
Also, to perform the starter kill function, to keep the car from being stolen, you only have to interrupt one of the Toyota's starter wires with your relay. I always interrupt the bigger wire just so my installations are all consistent, but you can choose either wire you want.
Again, you don't need two starter kill relays, and you don't need to interrupt both wires. Interrupting either wire will prevent the car froom starting.
souljah972 
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Appreciate the great replys, you guys have answered my questions.  Another question though if i choose to add a relay for the starter kill I can use it on the same small grey wire i am using a relay for the starter 2, and would i place it on the car side of the starter 2 relay or key side or does it not matter.

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souljah972 
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Posted: February 20, 2010 at 6:07 PM / IP Logged  

Would this be the correct way to wire a relay for my Starter 2 wire?

2009 toyota camry, autopage rs 665 2w -- posted image.

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souljah972 
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Posted: February 20, 2010 at 6:19 PM / IP Logged  
I meant to put     (-) 200ma Second Starter output   where i put     (-)200ma Ground Output When Running
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