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twistable_deer 
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hi, i bought a prostart remote starter for my 2002 Pontiac sunfire and i was wondering why it does not what to unlock or lock the car, the lights flash and everything but nothing happens. do i need a relay to unlock?
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Here is a link to Bulldog Security for wiring info : http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

Depending on whether or not the car came with Factory Keyless Entry, you will have either Type A or Type C

door locks.  Bulldog Note :   NOTE *1 if vehicle is WITHOUT Factory Keyless entry it is a TYPE C Door
Locking system and MUST be tested from the PASSENGER SWITCH, if vehicle has Factory keyless Entry it is
a TYPE A Door Locking System.

Here is some info on wiring the locks:

Type A Three Wire Positive :  http://www.circuitbuddy.net/products.htm
Type C REV  :  https://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#5w

If your remote starter unit only outputs a (-) lock / unlock pulse, you will need relays and a inline fuse.

Other options include a bypass module that does both the Passlock2 immobilizer and the door locks or a
DEI 451m relay module for the door locks.

Soldering is fun!
syl20rochon 
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If your car is non keyless, it is easily done with 2 relays as a reversal 5 wire circuit. If it's keyless, again 2 relays will be needed but wired differently. We just need to know which one you have.
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twistable_deer 
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so where do i get those relays?
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Any electronic store or autoglass shop. In canada, their worth about $5 to $8 each. Get them with 12" harnesses. Do you have keyless or not?
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twistable_deer 
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no, it only unlocks, locks and opens my trunk. it also has a panic button.
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So you do have a keyless GM remote! Right?
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twistable_deer 
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yes i guess it unlocks/locks my car
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So this is the way you'll wire your relays. I'm giving you the lock relay, just repeat for unlock.
85= lock wire from remote brown (-)
86 & 87= +12V (Fused 10amps)
30= lock wire from car (Driver kick panel)(+) Light Blue
Repeat for unlock
unlock from remote starter= Green (-)
unlock from car= White (+)
The relays you'll get are rated at 30 amps and the pin numbers are written on the relay itself. Make sure that you fuse you relays, one 10 amps fuse will do for both relays as you will wire all 86 & 87 pins together to the fuse.
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twistable_deer 
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so the 85, 86, 87, and 30 will be the relay i would have to buy? sorry i am new to this
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