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farad888 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM / IP Logged  
Hello all.
This one is testing my patience lol, can any of you guys help please?
Basicially long story short, Im trying to get a Clifford (dei)callguard2 up and running along with my inteliguard 950,
Ive all the wiring etc sorted except for a couple of contradictions in the fitting manuals and as per usual everything is that tightly guarded im stuck.
First off has anyone any idea how to factor reset the callguard (cg2) itself? The manual proudly reads "ONBOARD FACTORY RESET FEATURE" yet the bl**dy manual fails to explain how to do this.. The reason i ask is because i had it working pefectly yesterday, came back to it today to finish sorting it, and the callguard completely refuses to accept commands from my gsm?? (hence i cannot reconfigure it to my gsm etc)
Ive sent tonnes of messages to it, trying various pins commands etc etc but it still ignores my gsm yet it still sends status reports to my gsm clifford callguard nightmare cg -- posted image. This has me thinking its somehow corrupted the pin code which would explain it sending to me, yet ignoring my commands to it (as my pin might be corrupt)
its the only reason i can think of to cause this behaviour..
Its all one way communication?? (the missus springs to mind lol)
Im lead to believe there is a method of opening the callguard and shorting 2 pins or something simular to reset it, however i cannot find any further info on this??????
Also the callguard (cg2) has a (BROWN / black wire (+ Input4 Siren) the manual instruction for this wire is "Connect this wire to the Siren output of the vehicles security system" My question is Which siren output wire?? there are 4 wires to my siren, Red, Black, Yellow & Red?
Actually sorry thats more like long story longer when i read back through it clifford callguard nightmare cg -- posted image.
Any help or ideas would be very much appreciated as ive tried everything i can think of and gotten nowhere.clifford callguard nightmare cg -- posted image.
Thanks
Thomas
howie ll 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 at 4:19 AM / IP Logged  
Wait until Tuesday and phone 01420 470618.
In the meantime that SIM card must be data enabled NEVER used before.
farad888 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 at 6:20 AM / IP Logged  
Hello howieII and thanks for your help,
The strange thing is, when I had it working perfectly the previous night, I was using a new-ist sim which I had used before in a mobile phone, I was using it for testing purposes, with the intention of getting a new sim for the callguard when i was sure it was all working as it should.
The following day however the callguard refused to accept commands from my gsm, after various failed attempts to rectify this, I decided to go and get a new sim for the callguard, which I did, but now even with this new sim installed it still works as a one way communication only??? callguard will report to my gsm, but still wont accept data from my gsm..
( new sim is o2 PAYG 3G Sim) and topped up with £10)
I will call the number you provided on tuesday thanks..
also ive just noticed a typo above, the siren wires are infact Black, Red, Yellow & Green (not what it says above)
Thanks again
Thomas
howie ll 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 at 6:40 AM / IP Logged  
Clifford still uses neg. triggering on the yellow/white aux siren/horn wire you will need a relay to convert that to the pos. required by the Callguard BROWN / black, sorry it's ages since I installed one, I only ever connected the horn lead, the other colours you mentioned refer to the alarm's supplied back-up battery siren, don't use them they are data and you will damage the alarm or siren.
farad888 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 at 6:51 AM / IP Logged  
Ah that explains a few doubts I had with regauds to the wiring, also explains why the browm/black callguard wire was hooked into the indicator outputs on this unit..
Excellent im learning here lol
Thanks again howie II
just need wait to tuesday now to get more info hopefully via the number you supplied, Its killing me lol so close now clifford callguard nightmare cg -- posted image.
farad888 
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Posted: May 31, 2011 at 6:06 AM / IP Logged  
Just an update to say thanks very much Howie II
your help has sorted the problem, all good now
Thanks
Thomas
anewman 
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Posted: June 26, 2011 at 4:41 AM / IP Logged  
I had my Callguard freeze up once (stop sending out texts). Pulled the fuse, put it back after a few seconds and all was good again. I was testing/adjusting the proximity sensor at the time so it probably got a bit overused. I can only assume it resets with a power cycle. Luckily I had the foresight to neatly wire it into a blank spot in the car's fusebox rather than have one of those inline fuse holders hidden behind the dash.
A good tip (UK only) is to use a GiffGaff PAYG sim in the Callguard and have one for your mobile's sim (remember to refer yourself for £5 free credit on both sims). Then for each £10 top up you get 3 months entirely free texts between you and the Callguard. After that it will only eat 4p per text. With free texts I have it set to tell me when it is armed/disarmed. If I ever forget when I parked up (time limited parking), or end up in a panic that I never armed the alarm, I can just look at my phone.
I am finding the callguard seems to eat into my battery life quite a bit - my battery is dead in around 10 days of no use, which in the scheme of things isn't too bad. Going to upgrade the battery to a larger Bosch S5 one anyway as the one in there is a cheapie.
howie ll 
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Posted: June 26, 2011 at 4:50 AM / IP Logged  
You never mentioned the vehicle, state of battery or any other aftermarket products, for instance I never permanently wired inverters, they will draw 10amps just switched on.
Most GPS tracking units will not affect the battery* if the vehicle is run every day. If left to stand with the alarm on, even with a new battery and you don't use it, expect to have a flat battery every 10-14 days.
*Current draw is about 3 milliamps, infinitesimal in the real world, your normal leakage from chemical action, corroded connections is more than that, have you done battery/alternator simple tests with a DMM?
anewman 
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Posted: June 26, 2011 at 4:58 PM / IP Logged  
Callguard, Viper 1002 - sensors DEI 507m tilt, and Omega AU95-TM dual zone prox. No relays other than those in the unit brains. No other aftermarket gear. I wondered if the 1002's immobiliser relay might consume less power programmed to normally open.
If 10-14 days is expected I'd be inclined to believe there is no undue drain. Haven't used the car much as of late, only short journeys. Only once come to it dead. I understand draining a battery isn't healthy for it though so will upgrade. Current battery is a cheapie 063 41ah purchased 2 years ago (the size specified for the car). Looking at a 096 77ah Bosch S5. Should be enough room in the battery box. It might be over kill, but I suspect it should give me around twice as long before the battery is fully drained.
Only oddity I have noticed is when connecting the battery negative terminal, there is a small spark and the wipers jump for a second, otherwise they work normally. Will do a DMM battery test and see how much the alarm and callguard draw and compare this to the overall draw. I suspect they're the main consumers.
I wonder if the battery voltage warning feature of the Callguard is adjustable. The 10.5 volt level means by the time it "warns", you'll need jump leads.
howie ll 
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Posted: June 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM / IP Logged  
If the alarm doesn't trigger when you reconnect the battery, start investigating that spark! Also the wipers jumping, NO VEHICLE that I can think of has the wipers permanently connected either ignition, European or ACC Japanese/Korean, so that's a problem to look into for a start.
Since you STILL haven't mentioned the vehicle, this is an assumption:
Drain normally about 40-80 milliamps, with alarm, add about 30-40 milliamps.
Wiring the relay open is something I'd never do, either way there's no draw unless the engine is running (open circuit) so no problem there or the alarm is on and a "hot wire" is attempted.
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