clifford in a mk7 transit

Im posting this on behalf of a friend. we've had a good search through the forum but cant find what we are after.

He is currently fitting a concept 300 into a ford transit mk7 van SWB 280 tdci, everything is ok bar the central locking, he cant seem to work out what the actual colours or type of system the central locking is?

Does anyone have a wiring diagram, or know what type the central locking is?

Also does anyone know what the door pin trigger wires are?

any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

What year, 07 on? Let me know and I'll post it on downloads/manuals. It's a PITA.

Hi Howie.

its a 2006, mk7 model, registered sept 2006 56 plate

hth

hetz

I really can't help you. This version is extremely simple; it's easy to separate front and side door locking, if you can't pick up the door triggers (you need to add side and rear pin switches) you really shouldn't be doing this. I've just remembered your previous posts, I think what you're trying is above your knowledge and capabilities

thanks for your help Howie!

I thought working from a wiring diagram would make life easier im pretty sure this is how pro's work?.... but i guess resorting to tracing wires and testing with a multimeter shouldnt be too hard.

thanks again.

hetz

Now you are thinking like a pro! I'm still not sure whether this Transit is the latest shape or the previous! Have you got a lidded glove box either side of the dash or just a drop in cubby on the left? No point in asking about this, I'm the only person here who knows them, I did the work -ups for DEI on the last Mondeo and the Transit Connect.

Hi Howie

I am the guy with the transit. I have a  glove box on the  top on each side of the dash. The main glove box on the passenger side drops down and you a fuse box. This also drops down to reveal a GEM box . The gem box has a number of connectors from top left to bottom left you have C4 grey, C3 black , C6 white, C1 black.  On the right on the GEM box is C2 Brown and C5 Grey.

I have found  and identified starter, iginiton cuts and indicators via digrams found on the net but i still had to test these as many of the diagrams did not correspond to my wiring.  I have manged to find the lock wire on C3 which is blue and  grey but this keeps blowing the fuse on the relay i  have built once the doors are locked. The wire shows positive when unlocked and negative when locked.

I need to identify the unlock, door, sliding door and rear door triggers and the dome light wires.  Also the dealock wire.

I have tried testing the unlock and deadlock wire as per cobras instructions but all wires show positive on unlock and lock.

Your help will be appreciated.

Thanking You

Anand

PM me with an email address, I'll send you the info.

I have a 2010 transit tourneo, and can't get it to lock via the GEM box. I have it down on my data sheet as Grey/Blue C3, but if I neg pulse this nothing happens apart from the fact that if you pulse the lock wire (Grey/Blue) and then pulse the Blue (unlock), each time you pulse lock unlock the courtesy light goes on off as you would expect apart from the fact that the doord do not phisically lock. The function of this lamp however is overidden if it is still on the timed illumination after the doors have been opened/closed. The unlock works OK as in it will unlock the doors if you first lock them with the OEM fob.

After reading some posts hereI have tested the yellow on C3 but there is no change in voltage when deadlocked (stays at 12v), so not tempted to try pulsing this. I am guessing that either the 2010 have something new (Ford modified the circuit to get over the deliberate shorting unlock problem that criminals used to open the rear doors?), or I am missing something very basic. The 2010 van I have has the single rear door and twin sliders (8 seater), and the locking mechanism is identical to the normal van as in it is one press of the OEM fob for lock, two presses for deadlock.

I have tested all connectors on C3 and none of them change voltage between lock and unlock (apart from blue ). You can however still hear the relay latch when deadlock is selected. 

I am fitting the Toad 606i, and everything works except the lock function. I have tried manualy pulsing this wire just to confirm no problems with alarm unit.

I have downloaded Ford's Etis information, but not sure if the output of C2 pin 23 can be used as an input, with a meter I can see no voltage change on this pin anyway.

Run out of ideas on where to go next with this issue, help. 

If you don't know how to do it then ask someone who does

OK, I played with an 08 on Saturday and it was an add on so I didn't need to lock the doors. Blue/brown deadlock, grey/orange unlock, yellow something regular lock. Probably a fourth to unlock the back doors separately. These are all motor wires and should be wired accordingly,i.e. 5 wire alternate. I went to one of the front domelights and picked up the switched side, this also picks up the door triggers in the back. Unfortunately the 606i is an overpriced primitive POS with awful programming and I think if you do the motor wires it won't turn off the domelights hence the 606 will give you false alarms. Contrary to the last post there are no keyholes to side or rear door so crims can't ground out the loom, apart from the fact that that is only applicable to the previous model, apart from which Ford addressed that problem from about 04. Using a G5 Clifford 650Mkll which is virtually the same trade price will give you ignition lock/unlock plus deadlock on arming and separate unlock for the side and rear doors. We also installed a bonnet switch.