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hipmusicman

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 7:32 PM / IP Logged

i hooked up the remote start harness, the ground, the tach, the antenna, and the door locks. the door locks work (had to get a relay for it but it wasn't a big deal to wire it). the problem im having is that the when i press the button for the remote start it wont turn the car over. it wont even start the accy. there is another harness called the satellite harness but it's just for when you put the key in the ingnition i think. and if it's not how do i hook it up because that is the only other harness besides the kill switch that i havented installed.

im installing this in an '89 535i. what am i missing or doing wrong?

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 8:12 PM / IP Logged

What did you do with the gray hood pin wire ? It Shouldn't be grounded and the neutral safety wire BLACK/ white should be grounded if its an automatic

If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 8:22 PM / IP Logged

Hard to say at this point. The 4103 is for use on a F.I., auto trans vehicle so

we will assume your BWM has an auto trans. ( If it does not, then DO NOT install

this remote start system on your car. There are other units available designed

to be safe with a manual transmission. )

Here is wiring info. Verify all wires with a DMM prior to connection.

H1/1 LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK FACTORY ALARM DISARM

H1/2 GREEN / WHITE FACTORY REARM

H1/3 YELLOW (+) IGNITION OUT (TO ALARM)

H1/4 WHITE/ BLUE (-) ACTIVATION INPUT

H1/5 ORANGE (-) GROUND WHEN LOCKED

H1/6 BROWN (-) HORN OUTPUT

H1/7 RED / WHITE (-) TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT

H1/8 BLACK GROUND Chassis Ground

H1/9 WHITE (+/-) LIGHT FLASH gry/purple, gry/yel @ light switch

Set 4103 to (+) and use diodes or relay to isolate wires.

Here is a diagram from Bulldog Security :

http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_5-SERIES_DUAL%20PARKING%20LIGHT%20DIAGRAM.pdf

H2/1 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT to Chassis Ground

H2/2 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE black (AC) @ diagnostic conn.

H2/3 BROWN (+) BRAKE SWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE blue/red (+) brake pedal switch

H2/4 GRAY (-) HOOD PINSWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE Hood Pin

H2/5 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOG N.U.

1 PINK (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO IGNITION CIRCUIT Green @ Steering Column

2 PURPLE (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO STARTER CIRCUIT BLACK / YELLOW @ Steering Column

3 ORANGE (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO ACCESSORY CIRCUIT Purple @ Steering Column

4 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12 INPUT Red @ Steering Column

5 PINK/WHITE (+) PROGRAM OUTFOR ACC2 OR IGN2 N.U.

6 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT Red @ Steering Column

Neutral Safety Switch must be plugged in and set to ON.

Program 4103 to Tach Mode and perform Tach Learn process.

Use the built in diagnostics to determine fault :

led flashes shutdown mode

1 System timed out

2 Over-rev shutdown

3 Low or no RPM, Low battery (for voltage & virtual tach modes)

4 Transmitter Shutdown (or optional push button)

5 (-) hood shutdown

6 (+) brake shutdown

7 Neutral safety

Soldering is fun!

hipmusicman

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 8:23 PM / IP Logged

the hood pin wire isn't grounded i might not even install it. i didn't ground the neutral wire though. should i?

hipmusicman

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 8:29 PM / IP Logged

im guessing that the safety switch goes between the neutral wire and the chassis?

chev104275

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 8:45 PM / IP Logged

Yes use the switch that came with the 4103 one side goes to ground and one side goes to the neutral safety wire doesn't matter which wire off the switch goes where. Why aren't you going to put the hood pin in ? It could save your mechanics hands or yours

If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 8:49 PM / IP Logged

The Neutral Safety wire, BLACK/ White, must be connected and show chassis ground to allow a remote start.

Times 2 with Joe on the Hood Pin. Very important safety feature.

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Posted: August 05, 2012 at 10:58 PM / IP Logged

With the range that remote start systems have now adays it is of up most importance to utilize every safety device for the remote start.

As said toggle switch to safety neutral switch. Let us know how that works out.

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hipmusicman

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Posted: August 06, 2012 at 1:04 AM / IP Logged

it works perfect!!! i just need to finish the install with the brake wire and the hood pin. there is a factory hood switch so i might try to utilitize that to make it easier. the hood raises up opposite that of normal cars. most cars hoods go this way... (< = front of car) <\. mines goes this way </ and then is pushed towards the winshield to latch after it has been layed down. the whole fact that you have to push it towards the windshield makes the hood pin that came with the remote start difficult to install. therefore i will use the switch factory installed for the light or whatever it was. (there are 2 switches on the hood, one of them was for the light. neither of them work anyways). thank you for straightening this whole thing out. it's taken me a LONG time to figure it out. saved me $200 for install. all i ended up spending was about $50 for everything.

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Posted: August 06, 2012 at 1:27 AM / IP Logged

By now after 27 years the factory hood pin needs testing to make sure it's still working, if not replace it.

Why a relay for the locks, low current neg, unless the lock module had failed.

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