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2011 silverado with viper 5701 d2d dball


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bucthis 
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I haven't done an alarm on one of these new trucks or used a dball before.  What wires am I actually wiring to the truck.  The Dball instructions only show 12v, ground, parking lights, neutral safety & ignition output from the alarm to the truck.  Then CAN, 12v, ignition, and accessory from the DBall to the truck as well as the D2D between them. 

If I follow that do the heavy relay wires still need to be hooked up?  It doesn't show them. 

I am using firmware GM6 version 2.35

Someone please help, I am getting very frustrated.  I have two of these to do.

bucthis 
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With everything hooked up or without the heavy relays hooked up my alarm works fine, but when I try to remote start I get 8 flashes which the guide says is the neutral saftey wire.  I have the wire grounded and I have tried with out ground, but I get the same error either way. 

What am I missing????

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Is the Neutral Safety Switch plugged in and set to ON?
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bucthis 
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I just caught that before I saw your post.  I didn't have that switch plugged in.  I was thinking about the wire not the switch.  Now it goes through the remote start cycle.  Do I need the heavy starter wires hooked up to the RED / black wire?
bucthis 
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I have everything working except the actual starter.  The remote start goes through it's sequence, but the starter never turns over.  I am still missing something.  I am back to the original connections listed in my first post.  I know there is no starter circuit, and I have the ign, acc and power wires from the dball going to the ing harness, but no start.
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did you program tach signal to the viper? Also, when you go d2d between the 2 units most of the time it doesn't support data tach signal.  If you w2w between the dball and viper it should program fine.
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Newer GM vehicles use a constant Ingnition with a accessory voltage drop to start. Starter wire is not used from alarm/starter is not used typically so tape it off. Have to have H3/Pink from alarm connected to Pink of vehicle and H3/Orange connected to Brown or Yellow+ of vehicle. If you have these hooked up the next step is to program the remote start for Automatic mode as they all shipped with manual tran as the default. As listed in the install manual chart in BOLD on PG. 65. Then you need to learn the Tach Signal on PG. 53. and that is after you programmed the DB-ALL first!

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