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carzynfr 
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I'm trying to add my front windows up/down to an alarm system without using a module that bypasses the stock functions and add my rear windows with window module. It's a 2002 Nissan Altima that already has front auto up/down on the windows
So any idea how to wire something like that
howie ll 
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The only way is via a DEI 529t for close or a 535t or similar for close and vent. You won't do it without an external module and with the driver window wired directly to the motor wires.
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I found this that it may help me let me know
http://www.audiogroupforum.com/csforum/archive/index.php?t-11162.html
This makes it pretty easy to add remote windows up/down for your customer. Using one relay, it's possible to get both up and down off one auxillary channel. Here's how I do it:
85: 12 volts
86: domelight supervision output from remote starter or aftermarket alarm
30: auxillary output from R/S or alarm
87a: key-cylinder lock wire on car
87: key-cylinder unlock wire on car
carzynfr 
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if I insert the key in the lock and turn it to unlock and hold it for 3 seconds the windows go down, turning to lock and holding for 3 seconds will roll them up, if I run 2 relays one for up and 1 for down may work on my front windows and for my rear windows I will get a window module and get the aux 1 signal for window roll up and aux 2 for window down
window roll up
85: 12 volts
86: aux 1 output from R/S or alarm
30: 12 volts or ground
87a: none
87: key-cylinder lock wire on car
window roll down
85: 12 volts
86: aux 2 output from R/S or alarm
30: 12 volts or ground
87a: none
87: key-cylinder unlock wire on car
let me know what do you think thank you
howie ll 
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Let's start again you've just told me your vehicle has comfort close.
howie ll 
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If the lock and unlock at the key cylinder are NEG (-) going you won't need relays, just connect directly to your aux 1 and 2.
Set aux one (close) for 4 seconds timed. Or link it to lock if your alarm has linking (DEI product).
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If I just connect directly the aux 1 and 2 to the lock and unlock at the key cylinder will not damage the alarm module
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If I just connect directly the aux 1 and 2 to the lock and unlock at the key cylinder will not damage the alarm module
carzynfr 
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Comfort Closure Off(1): The system can be programmed to close the windows
when the system is locked. If programmed ON, the lock output provides a
20 second pulse when the system is locked. The output will be cancelled if the
button is pressed. In the Off setting this functions does not work.
*****If I program the comfort closure on it will work with the LOCK OUTPUT SIGNAL, can i still connect directly the aux 1 and 2 to the lock and unlock at the key cylinder the way i can roll up and down my windows any time
*****the Comfort closure provides a 20second pulse when the system is locked,when i turn the key to the lock position and hold for about 5 the window rolls all the way up and i don't want to damage my windows let me know what you think
howie ll 
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One or the other, comfort close plus aux 1 as vent/down perhaps?
I've used diodes or not on similar, seems to make no difference.
For BMW I use short (0.4 sec) lock/unlock pulse and join aux 1 to lock and aux 2 to unlock. Gives more control.
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