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'14 audi a6 tdi remote start needed


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snocat 
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Need install info for a Viper remote start on a 2014 Audi A6 TDI. Is there any install info available for these cars? I'm an experienced mechanic and from what I hear the install is not that complicated. Is there access to their tech line/site ?
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buy an idatalink ads-al-ca flash it with DLVW6 DBI-2way
http://cdncontent2.idatalink.com/corporate/Content/Manuals/DL-VW6/DBI-AL(DL)-VW6-EN_20141020.pdf
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snocat 
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tedmond wrote:
buy an idatalink ads-al-ca flash it with DLVW6 DBI-2way
http://cdncontent2.idatalink.com/corporate/Content/Manuals/DL-VW6/DBI-AL(DL)-VW6-EN_20141020.pdf
Is that all I need, so you don't recommend the Viper systems? We really don't need most of the features but would like some decent range, nice not to have an extra remote too.
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the idatalink piece must be flashed for the vehicle you'll be using it with.
you have 3 options here.
1) install a complete viper system + use idatalink ads-al-ca
2) install an idatalink ads-al-ca with an XL202 rf extender and buy the remote/antenna kit. I say go with a Compustar FT-D100 + RF-P2W901SS
3) install idatalink ads-al-ca as a standalone starter and use the factory key (lock 3x) to start.
Now speaking from experience, option 3 is the easiest and most cost effective to get a starter in. option 2 is going to cost more if you stay with viper than option 1, due to the fact you will need a flashlink usb and xk loader2. The install would be much cleaner and less "bulky." if you went with the compustar/idatalink combo you only need to purchase the ads-usb flashlink.
On top of that the compustar or viper will give you the greatest amount of range possible up to a mile (depending on model)
since you're about the range, option 2 seems to be best suited for your needs. research which range of remote works do you. most range from1000ft-3000ft, higher ends go from 3000ft-6000ft 1mile
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You can use a DB-ALL2 as well not to disagree with young Ted but that's all we get in Europe and it works fine.
Just used one a Skoda (Golf V) and it worked fine.
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howie ll wrote:
You can use a DB-ALL2 as well not to disagree with young Ted but that's all we get in Europe and it works fine.
Just used one a Skoda (Golf V) and it worked fine.
Have you heard of this? Found it in a review on Amazon:
"Now it appears Xpresskits no longer wants these to use the factory remote for 3X starting. When you go to the website for firmware programming you encounter this message.
3X Lock Start Feature
As of October 1st 2014, RSR firmware no longer supports the 3X Lock Start feature using your factory remote. However, it will remain supported on the Directed Digital Solutions (4X10/5X10), which offer better coverage. DBALL and DBALL2 will continue to support RSR and RXT functionalities through Directed RF kits and SmartStart, but will no longer offer 3X Lock Start capability.
If you need to service your installation, please refer to Technical bulletin 116."
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Yes they don't support it anymore.
BTW, you'll still need a key in a box, e.g. 556U, Euro vehicles have an extra level of security.
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+1 the dball2 will work as well. I haven't used a dball in some time, let alone touch the new version. I hope they are better now than they used to be.
howard, i thought fortin had a branch in russia that distributes for that side of the country no?
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They don't reach west. One of the UK companies would bring in a batch of EVO-ALL and my colleague and I would grab them., No support for any vehicle, e.g. BMW 7 Series not sold in Canada.
DEI own a company Falcon Electronics in Romania, supposedly does all the code reads and software for Euro vehicles. I don't even want to tell you our horror stories.
Did a Skoda today, DB-ALL wouldn't give parking brake.
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Let's say I figured out what unit, if any, and which module I would be using, are there any resources for install info/directions? If not then the hardware is unimportant. I have the know how and the tools, and from what I have learned so far, it's not that complicated but I still need to know ahead of time what exactly is involved before I purchase anything. I know that the installers have a site and a tech. line that they utilize for instructions or problems. Maybe it's best left to a pro...also, what's the most time consuming part of the job, why would it take 2-3 hrs. to tap into the 2 can wires and do a key wrap(?) and program the remotes?? The most important thing I was looking forward to was the beers that I would have after testing it for the first time (whether it worked or not)...
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