Giordon g686sp remote start 05 Toyota Matrix

I have installed the keyless entry and alarm which both work, but the remote start continues to baffle me. I've Googled like crazy and have found a few posts to help, but haven't found a definitive answer. I've tried a few different wiring expirements, but still won't work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What does the unit do exactly? Over crank, doesn't crank, doesn't attempt to start, start error codes? Need more informationTed

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I think you'll be wasting your time, never known one to actually work. Is there a bypass involved/needed for that vehicle?

It doesn't do anything. The relays just tic when I try it. And no there's no bypass that I know of.

You might have a transponder chipped key and need a bypass module.  Toyota started using them in the 2005 Matrix.  Try this test :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=134973

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Tried the test. The car would crank but now start. I'm guessing that means I need a bypass module.

Just to be clear though it doesn't even crank with the remote start

You could have more than one issue.  Place the ignition key fully into the ignition switch but do not turn it ( to ACC or ON ).  Then try a remote start.

It would definitely help other forum members if you could post a link to the Giordon G686SP Install Manual ( or upload it to the Downloads section ) and list all of your current wiring connections.  While the Matrix is fairly common, the Giordon R/S is rarely seen / used in these parts.

For the needed bypass module, look at something like the XpressKit PKALL or Fortin Key-Override-All.  Here is a link to the PKALL install guide : http://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6231&productid=196&firmwareid=1636

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if it doesn't attempt to crank at all, you missed the ignition 2 wire.Ted

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Thanks for the help, it's been a minute since I've had time to mess with it. The alarm directions don't tell me which wire to connect to the 2nd ignition.    Alarm wires   Car wires 12 pin Negative black        Grounded Negative gate     blue trunk blue/white startup detection purple       to what i believe is the tach BLACK/ white (manual states to engine oil sensing on instrument panel, but everything I've read states connect to tach) positive        red positive 12volt pedal detection orange        brake GREEN / WHITE on detection     white BLACK/ white (1st ignition) (manual states: to on lock cylinder when key is turned on, voltage is + 12volts) 4 pin module starter wire     blue  red to cylinder on   white BLACK/ white (1st ignition) (manual states:to on lock cylinder when key is turned on, voltage is + 12volts) accessory        green blue/red RED / black      BLACK/ white (1st ignition) (manual states: to lock cylinder on) I have a black\yellow wire which is the second ignition but not sure which to connect. I also have a blue/black which is not used that is the key sense