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Viper 5706v, 95 Cadillac Fleetwood


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nolaslimm 
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Posted: May 06, 2018 at 9:53 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote nolaslimm
ok, ive searched and cant find anything to remedy my issue
I have an old 1995 cadillac fleetwood, type A lock system...maybe 12 years ago I installed a viper 5900 alarm. for the lock/unlock it just required you to connect the green and blue wires to the wires at the lock/unlock switch, no relays for the type A system
recently the alarm died and I pulled everything out. I miss my remote start so I purchased a Viper 5706v. upon connecting the lock wires back how they were previously, it does not lock or unlock...any ideas before I pull my hair out, lol
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Posted: May 06, 2018 at 12:23 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Your old Viper system had "push / pull" or flip-flop door lock outputs. They would output both + and - pulses to enable connection to either Type A or Type B vehicle door lock systems.
Your new Viper only outputs only a Type B pulse, (-). It will not work on your Type A car. The easy way to do it is to get a DEI 451M door lock module ($9). It plugs right into the Viper and will convert the (-) outputs to the (+) outputs your car needs. The 451M install guide is in the Downloads section.
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nolaslimm 
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Posted: May 06, 2018 at 1:55 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote nolaslimm
thanks, if only the instructions explained it the way you did, would be so much easier, lol...ill grab one up tomorrow...sure ill pay a lil more but wont have to wait for it to be shipped...
nolaslimm 
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Posted: May 07, 2018 at 6:39 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote nolaslimm
ok,I dont do this work professionally so I have to ask for a little help.
car is a 1995 fleetwood. the alarm side works fine, the remote start, im sure needs a few more wires
Main Harness, White 6-pin connector
6 ORANGE (-) 500mA (GWA) GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT     is this required
Auxiliary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness, White 24-pin connector
11 WHITE/BLUE ACTIVATION INPUT
Remote Start, White 10-pin heavy gauge connector
2 RED/BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT
from the last alarm, viper 5900, I had power going to the brown wire in the harness for the starter wires, I cant find info on what that wire is for and if it needs to wired to the remote start
thanks so much
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Posted: May 08, 2018 at 6:54 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Main Harness, White 6-pin connector
6 ORANGE (-) 500mA (GWA) GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT     is this required     No. Typical use for window roll-up, etc.
Auxiliary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness, White 24-pin connector
11 WHITE/BLUE ACTIVATION INPUTNot used. Used for testing or external unit control input.
Remote Start, White 10-pin heavy gauge connector
2 RED/BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT        Yes. Goes to +12V constant.
              All thick Red, Red/White and Red/Black fused wires should go to +12V constant.
Q: from the last alarm, viper 5900, I had power going to the brown wire in the harness for the starter wires,
I cant find info on what that wire is for and if it needs to wired to the remote start
A: Check your ignition switch harness. If it has an Orange and a Brown wire, verify they are both Accessory
type circuits with a DMM. Also ensure that there is no White Ignition 2 type wire. If that is correct,
set the Vipers Pink/White Flex output to Accessory and connect to the cars Brown ACC2 wire.
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nolaslimm 
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Posted: May 08, 2018 at 7:48 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote nolaslimm
much thanks in both threads, however this was a mistake on my part...i used the previous spots for the a few wires ASSUMING it was the same.
turns out the old alarm was (+) for the parking brake while the new alarm needed (-)...felt like a dummy for not checking but it fired right up
tomorrow i;; go through and set the features how I want them
thanks again

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