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sheetrock0958 
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Posted: December 14, 2003 at 6:32 PM / IP Logged  

I'm planning on installing an AstroStart 4204 in a 2000 GrandPrix GTP and have a couple of questions. I have pulled all of the specs on the vehicle already and was wondering if anybody with experience with this vehicle could possible give me more in-depth information such as:Plug Colors &  What Pin # in the Plug for such wires as the Dis-Arm wire, Tach, Lock, Unlock, Horn, Park Lights,  etc. as well as any other information on problems this vehicle might give me.

Also, is bypassing the PassKey III the same as bypassing the Passlock II? I've done the Passlock II a couple of times and don't have a problem with them, but the Grand Prix has the PassKey III from what I understand. I have purchased AstroStarts PassKey III module, but the directions in the package are very poor. If anyone has any information it would be greatly Apreciated.

Thanks in advance!

profuse007 
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Posted: December 14, 2003 at 7:02 PM / IP Logged  
just follow the diagram or vehicle specs you have. if youre to run into some wires, most likely others will run into it, too; search for some old threads.
search for "passkey III" or "passlock III"
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gpgtp00 
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Posted: December 14, 2003 at 7:17 PM / IP Logged  
passlock 2 and passlock 3 are different man. With your Grand Prix, your gonna need to have an extra key bc its gonna set in a box(Passlock 3 immobilizer) under your dash somewhere. Also, some of your wires have to be diode isolated on that car i.e. the door trigger and trunk trigger.
sheetrock0958 
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GPGTP00, The AstroStart Module that I have purchased is for the PassKey III, II, or I. The module can be set for voltage or resistance via setting dip-switches... so I shouldn't need an extra key right??? I guess I'm just assuming that this module is going to work for this Grand Prix. I don't know if I'm supposed to measure for the resistance of the key like you do for Passkey II or if I'm supposed to measure for voltage... I guess my question is, what is the procedure for bypassing PassKey III with a module that has the dip-switches that you set. Is there a better way to bypass this? I'm up for any ideas.

Also, Can anyone send me a diagram or picture of how to diode isolate the door wires? Am I just adding a diode between the R/S and the dk blue wire?

draasch 
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Posted: December 14, 2003 at 7:50 PM / IP Logged  
Make:   Pontiac
Model: Grand Prix
Year:    2000
This Database Was Last Updated On:    6/9/2003
Index #: 346
Alarm
Constant 12 volts RED (2) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light TAN (DR) & D BLUE (ALL OTHER DOORS) (-) AT BCM **
Trunk Pin Switch RED / BLACK (-) AT BODY CONTROL MODULE (BCM) ***
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock L BLUE 16 PIN CONNECTOR IN DRIVER KICK #201
Power Unlock WHITE PANEL OR AT BODY CONTROL MODULE ***
* Separate Circuits - One Fused At 60 And Other At 40 Amps. ** TAN (-) Wire Covers Driver Door Only, D BLUE (-) Covers All Other Doors. Diode Isolation Needed, Cathode (Band) Side Of Diode Faces OEM Wires. *** Body Control Module (BCM) Located Behind Driver Dash To Left Of Steering Column. #201- See Negative Pulse Door Lock Diagram. Refer To Tech Notes!
Remote Start
Tach Signal WHITE AT POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE * #239
Ignition #2 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC)
Ignition #3 WHITE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety NOT GROUNDING TYPE - OEM SWITCH OPENS STARTER CIRCUIT
Brake Light WHITE (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) AT SWITCH ON DR. SIDE OF TRANSAXLE
Rear Window Defrost N/A TIMER BUILT INTO SWITCH
* Powertrain Control Module Located On Driver Side Of Engine Compartment In Air Cleaner Housing. ** WHITE Wire Powered In Off, Run & Start Positions. This Wire Powers Instrument Cluster And Shifter Solenoid. #239- See Immobilizer Bypass Diagram
** GRAY/BLACK (-) Wire At Body Control Module (BCM) Is Output From BCM To Courtesy Lights. This Wire Can Be Accessed At Courtesy Lights Or At BCM And Should Cover All Doors. Should Be Verified With Multimeter And If Any Problems Are Encountered Use Alternate Method Listed In "ALARM" Notes.
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gpgtp00 
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Posted: December 14, 2003 at 9:25 PM / IP Logged  
ok, ive never used there setup before. Im not sure what you would do then. Whats the instructions say for the passkey 3 setup?

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