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rami_1r 
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Posted: August 07, 2005 at 4:15 PM / IP Logged  
hey there i'm trying to install an alarm system to my 2001 subaru impreza iv'e tried everything and the best result i've came to is that all 3 doors besides the drivers door are locked and opened when i acticate the alarm,the driver door remains open,iv'e accomplished that by adding one mini relay which opens and closes a circuit in a white wire(when the alarm close button pushed there is a perminant neg from a yellow wire and when i unlock the alarm the perminant neg is gone) that comes out from the drivers door itself i really dont know what else to do,iv'e tried using both of the nissan circuits in this site but it still dont work.
i would really appriciate any kind of help.
thanks ahead rami.(sorry for the lame english)
swamprat323 
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POWER LOCK|blue/green          |- |keyless module *1           |
|     POWER UNLOCK|yellow/red          |- |keyless module *1       
Notes:
*1 The keyless module is to the left of the steering column.
also shold be in the driver kick panel
are these the wire you used.
does you alarm have on board relays or off board.
rami_1r 
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Posted: August 07, 2005 at 6:51 PM / IP Logged  
first thanks for your help,"power lock blue/green
power unlock yellow/red">used these wires from alarm or vehicle?(the alarm lock wire is one second brown wire,which is also a problem cause the circuit in my relay shold have perminant neg to keep the lock at his position,the 1 sec neg that the alarm gives,close and open wires are not usefull i think in this case.
the alarm gives a perminant neg when triggerd and thats the wire i used for thew relay.i'll try draw it for u,thanks again.
rami_1r 
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Posted: August 07, 2005 at 7:11 PM / IP Logged  
sorry the picture is too big to upload to the site,can i have your email? i'll send it there
swamprat323 
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you only need a pulse not a constant output. should not need relays either. waht make and model of alarm.
all you shoudl need to do it hook the unlock wire form alarm to the "yellow/red" in the car, lock wore form alarm to the "blue/green" in the car. that if you dotn have on board relays. how many wires do you have for lock and unlock, form the alarm.
rami_1r 
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Posted: August 07, 2005 at 8:54 PM / IP Logged  
i have brown and grey=lock unlock wires
i have ORANGE / black=needed voltage to grey/brown wires,if i hook the ORANGE / black to pos12v they would give pos12v and the opposite.
i have ORANGE / white wire=i think in english it means polarity change + -
so you're saying i dont need a constant neg only pulse,and that i dont need relay's at all,AND that i dont have to touch the 2 wires (white,brown)that comes out from the door next to the driver kick panel??!!?
rami_1r 
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oh and the alarm is israeli made.
thanks again.
swamprat323 
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in your manural does it say anyhting about common, normally open and close, next to the door lock/ unlock wires or maybe have numbers 87a 87 30, if so what wire color is next to a number or N/O or N/C
but try this:
hook the brown and gray wires form the alarm to the wires in the car then orang/black and the ORANGE / white this go to ground.
rami_1r 
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Posted: August 07, 2005 at 9:36 PM / IP Logged  
no the manual only sais which color goes where,no relay numbers involved,i'll try what u said at the end and i'll let you know.
?how did u knew the wires in the car colors?and do u understand in electric windows as well?
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|       ITEM      |     WIRE COLOR     |POL|       WIRE LOCATION        |
|              12V|white               |+ |ignition harness            |
|          STARTER|WHITE/ black        |+ |ignition harness            |
|        IGNITION|green               |+ |ignition harness            |
|        ACCESSORY|yellow              |+ |ignition harness            |
|       POWER LOCK|blue/green          |- |keyless module *1           |
|     POWER UNLOCK|yellow/red          |- |keyless module *1           |
|       LOCK MOTOR|lt. GREEN/ black     |   |door lock timer *2          |
|     UNLOCK MOTOR|blue/white          |   |keyless module *1           |
|    DISARM DEFEAT|RED / green           |   |door lock timer *2          |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|orange              |   |parking light switch        |
| PARKING LIGHTS -|BLACK/ white        |   |headlight switch            |
|       HEADLIGHTS|green               |- |headlight switch            |
|     DOOR TRIGGER|yellow              |- |keyless module *1           |
| DOME SUPERVISION|use door trigger    |   |                            |
| TRUNK/HATCH PIN|yellow/blue        |- |trunk light                 |
|       TACHOMETER|blue or RED / green   |   |ignition coil *3            |
|      SPEED SENSE|GREEN/ YELLOW        |   |instrument cluster or *4    |
|       BRAKE WIRE|WHITE/ black        |+ |brake pedal switch          |
|     HORN TRIGGER|RED / green           |- |steering column             |
|           WIPERS|blk/blu & RED / blu   |+ |steering column             |
| LF WINDOW UP/DN|blue - blu/red      |A |drivers window switch       |
| RF WINDOW UP/DN|RED / blu - blk/blu   |A |drivers kick panel          |
| LR WINDOW UP/DN|blu/yel - grn/yel   |A |drivers kick panel          |
| RR WINDOW UP/DN|blu/wht - grn/wht   |A |drivers kick panel          |
| SUN RF OPN/CLOSE|yel/red - yellow    |A |sunroof motor               |
|        RADIO 12V|blue/red            |+ |radio                      |
|     RADIO GROUND|black               |- |radio                      |
|     RADIO SWITCH|YELLOW /GREEN        |+ |radio                      |
| RADIO ILLUMINATE|WHITE/ yellow        |+ |radio                      |
|       LF SPEAKER|brn/wht - green     |   |radio                      |
|       RF SPEAKER|RED / yel - wht/blk   |   |radio                      |
|       LR SPEAKER|RED / blk - wht/red   |   |radio                      |
|       RR SPEAKER|RED / wht - blu/yel   |   |radio                      |
Notes:
*1 The keyless module is to the left of the steering column. *2 The door lock timer is up high above the drivers kick panel. It has a 6 pin plug. *3 The ignition coil is on the top of the motor on the passenger side. *4 Also found at the cruise control unit in the drivers kick panel. It has a 20 pin plug.
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