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b-roy 
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Posted: November 20, 2007 at 4:53 PM / IP Logged  

So last winter, someone from thi shop installed a starter into an 04 Cavalier manual tranmission vehicle.

Today the customer came in and said he's been having troubles with his battery since last year. A mechanic told him that something to do with the starter install has created a situation where the alternator is not being turned on at all, with starter or with key, and this is causing the issues.  The car is being brought in in two days for me to look at. Any thoughts from anyone? Just wanted to poll the collective intelligence here as I prepare to go into this one. Never came across a situation like this before.

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sparkie 
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I always enjoy hearing the screwed up reasons that some people blame a problem on. I have learned over the years, that a lot of these funny statements come from mechanics that really don't have a clue when it comes to electrical systems in vehicles. If the alternator wasn't working, the car would only last a hour or so at best until the battery was fully discharged. The problem is much more likely that the battery may have a draw on it. When the car comes in, use your volt meter to measure the battery voltage with the car running. It should be around 13-14 volts. Turn the engine off and wait a few minutes. Measure the battery voltage after this (engine still off). The voltage should be around 12.5 volts. If either one of these readings is low, then you have a vehicle problem. If they are OK, then you need to hook your meter up inline in the battery circuit to check what the vehicle draw is. The draw shouldn't exceed 50 ma. If it does, then check the wiring of the remote starter and disconnect any of it's circuits to determine whether or not it is to blame.
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the alt will not do the job  rite if one electrical sys is short .
b-roy 
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Pretty much inline with my own thoughts sparky, just wanted to toss out to the other minds on here. I recently had an alternator go in my own car and couldnt drive it 5 mins without it killing itself.

Just outta curiousity sparky, who do you work for? Reason I ask is we have an installer with our company who is referred to as sparky...

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Posted: November 20, 2007 at 9:30 PM / IP Logged  
b-roy wrote:

Pretty much inline with my own thoughts sparky, just wanted to toss out to the other minds on here. I recently had an alternator go in my own car and couldnt drive it 5 mins without it killing itself.

Just outta curiousity sparky, who do you work for? Reason I ask is we have an installer with our company who is referred to as sparky...

If you work for Futureshop I know who you speak of
Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta

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