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Sony Copy Protected CDs - Too Far


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kfr01 
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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 10:19 PM / IP Logged  

Why won't a Sony / BMG CD work in your latest deck?  Because it doesn't conform to the standard CD format. 

Why did your computer drop a frame or two in the latest 3d-shooter after you listened to a Sony / BMG CD on your system?

Because they install a resident process on your computer that takes 1-2%... even when your PC is idle. 

This is a new and very intrusive form of DRM that consumers of ALL audio need to know about. 

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051101-5514.html

This is an excellent reason never to buy another Sony car audio product, in my opinion. 

They need to get back to producing quality products and put their COMPETITORS in their crosshairs; not their customers. 

I, for one, will let Sony know what I think with my pocket.  There will be no Playstation games bought by me as gifts for relatives this xmas.  There will be no DVD-R drives from Sony bought.  I certainly will not consider a Sony WEGA monitor or t.v. set.

I've been lurking here when I have time; but this news pissed me off enough to post.

Edit:  looks like the national media has caught wind of this sh*t too: 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/02/AR2005110202362.html?sub=new

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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 10:40 PM / IP Logged  
Im with you, i'll never buy another sony product again, what they are doing will definately get themselves sued.
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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 10:51 PM / IP Logged  
AHAHA.
Dude, I told my mom I wanted an MP3 player like last Christmas, so she gets me this Sony MD player that has like "MP3 Player" written all over the package.
It turns out that the *only* way to use this thing at all is to install some software package that manages the players music library and makes you encode the file in Sony's special little format and then "check-out" the file to your MD player. If you want more than a set number of songs or whatever, you have to "check-in" your own files back in with the software ...
These people are absolutely *obsessed* with control.      
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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 11:05 PM / IP Logged  

This is awful! I am apalled at this b.s!    Oh man, do I ever have some guilt.

I recently recieved a sony digital camera for my birthday, not really my call though.

But the big one, the shop I work for just got in a shipment of the new sony specialty edition junk today. I even got a t-shirt! Better burn it! There was some stickers on the decks that had a website for sony music, don't know if there is any correlation to what was mentioned but who knows.

So even sony decks wont play sony/bmg cd's? How ridiculous is that!

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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 11:05 PM / IP Logged  

If you're as angry as I am, let them know how you feel:

http://www.sonymusic.com/about/feedback.cgi

I informed them that I will not buy Sony products until they:

1) stop selling CD's with Rootkit-based DRM; and
2) release an easy-removal tool to the general public.

I encourage you to ask for the same.

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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 11:08 PM / IP Logged  

Most decks will still play the CD's, but they aren't standard.  Some decks won't play them.

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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 11:17 PM / IP Logged  

I left them some feedback.

kfr01 is quite the out spoken one, more power to you and thank you for the info.

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Posted: November 02, 2005 at 11:35 PM / IP Logged  
I have to make a good-faith edit to my above information. It was based on information read at another forum. Sony says that the discs -are- standard: "This disc contains both an audio session and a data session for computers which makes it a multi-session disc. These discs are fully compliant with the Sony/Philips CD disc specifications. If your player will not recognize the disc please check whether your player recognizes multi-session discs in general." From: http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/faq.html
But, something else I read made me just as angry:
"PC Users: When listening to music directly off the disc, you must use the player provided on the disc. Attempting to play the audio on the disc (while the disc is spinning in the computer drive) with another player (i.e. Windows Media Player, Real Player, iTunes) will result in distorted sound."
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Posted: November 03, 2005 at 8:58 AM / IP Logged  

More links for your reading pleasure:

http://news.com.com/Sony+to+patch+copy-protected+CD/2100-7355_3-5928608.html

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27426

The Inquirer article is quite more scathing than the News.com article... 

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Posted: November 03, 2005 at 9:20 AM / IP Logged  

I never liked Sony products(except my old MD player and i had to bite my tongue to buy it).This all the more reason to inform my customers about the 2nd"Evil Empire".Russ

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